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Re: FCB 1010 Uno editor 1.0.7 #wanted

Edmund O carroll
 

great - thanks!

Re: How to program Guitar Rig 5 with FCB/UnO editor ? #wanted

Rosen Canev
 

Sorry I don\t have UNO. I have the original FCB 1010, v.2.50

Re: How to program Guitar Rig 5 with FCB/UnO editor ? #wanted

EJ SHELDON
 

You should read the ControlCenter manual. See the two folder icons below the big round CONNECT icon? Once you have a working sysex (test with the Virtual FCB and the left side monitor available by clicking Global Setting a couple times), you use one of those Folder icons to DOWNLOAD the sysex to the FCB. Then you use the OTHER one to upload the modified (hopefully) contents of the FCB for verification. You can also verify by using the right side monitor (click the little connect icon so it turns RED). That monitor shows what happens when you operate a pedal on the REAL FCB.

Depending on what version of UNO you have (pre 1.04, maybe pre 1.03), you may have to manually activate sysex download on the FCB itself. This only needs to be done once, unless you do a factory reset.

Re: How to program Guitar Rig 5 with FCB/UnO editor ? #wanted

EJ SHELDON
 

In Reaper and most other DAWs, you first create a MIDI track with the (FCB's interface) as it's source. You then SEND the output of that track to the track containing your VST.

Re: How to program Guitar Rig 5 with FCB/UnO editor ? #wanted

Rosen Canev
 

Thanks a lot ! Great explanations!

I did it in standalone version of Guitar Rig 5, but how to do the same in VST in DAW? I am using Reaper.

By the way,  I  successfully connected FCB/Uno control center editor to my midi foot controller, but when start changing some parameters by my mouse, it doesn't affect the foot controller.

Re: Cyber-Twin tuner setup

EJ SHELDON
 

BRILLIANT! :-)

Re: Cyber-Twin tuner setup

Bruce Nasmith
 

I have one. Only thing is all I have to do is turn around and push the tuner button on the amp to access the tuner. 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 11:50 AM <dvhonk@...> wrote:
Do you have a cyber twin se? I can send you a step by step guide how to program the FCB 1010 to access the tuner.

Re: expression pedal and continuous controller

dvhonk@...
 

Thanks for replying. I am a retired A&P aircraft mechanic. My wife was on yahoo when I ask the question years ago and forgot about it. The Behringer manual was not clear on the buttons to push and the order to push them to program the FCB1010. The cyber-twin presets start at 0 so I had to use 128 for the PROG CHG 1, 32 for the CNT1, and 2 for VALUE 1. I used preset 10 as a sacrificial preset. After this I could press #10 and amp would change to "tuner mode" and back when I pressed #10 again.
 
The pedals came into play with writing a preset for the cyber-twin. You press the 'amp' button on the amp to cycle thru menus, like name change, reverb type, speaker phase 17 in all. Number 15 is expression pedal assignment and 16 is cont. controller assignment. I may not fully understand the workings of this AMP. I may have to get a stand alone pedal for the expression pedal and plug it into the expression pedal port on the back of the amp.  Fender does not talk much about the amp after it was released to the public. I know I am one of the few that use the amp, and with the FCB it is easy to use. I think I was confused about the amp using the pedals on the FCB for cont. controller and expression pedal. Thanks for the input on the subject as you know more than most people. Thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: EJ SHELDON <bluesrock13@...>
To: main@fcb1010.groups.io
Sent: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 12:50:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [fcb1010] expression pedal and continuous controller

I don't use a Cyber Twin. Very few people do.
Nor do I use many of the several dozen other MIDI devices and applications that I regularly assist others in using.
As a former programmer and all-around IT professional I AM very good at reading manuals, which is usually all that it takes.

I can give you a sysex that you can install on your FCB to control your Cyber Twin.
I can teach you how to do it yourself.
I CANNOT read your mind, nor can I do the actual work for you.
You WILL need to answer my questions and follow my directions.
You may also have to read some directions from a manual. I can help you with understanding them, but I WON'T RE-TYPE them here.

You first asked about the tuner 10 years ago.
The answer is to send the Cyber Twin PC#127.
Do you want to be able to do that from EVERY FCB Bank? Or from Pedal 10 in one bank only?
You want to be able to use your left (inside) Expression Pedal for something.
What Cyber Twin parameter, exactly, from the list I provided, would you like to use it for?
Or would you like to be able to control different parameters from different banks?

To create and install the sysex required to use the FCB to control the Cyber Twin, will you be using an Editor such as the FREE Ed Dixon/MtnSys editor located in the Files section of this forum(FCB1010PcEditorInstall.zip):



Or will you be using the Behringer direct on the device method? I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you use the Editor!

I will be more than happy to assist you with using your FCB with your Cyber Twin.
Please consider the questions I've just asked because, without the answers you can't be helped, by anyone.



Re: expression pedal and continuous controller

EJ SHELDON
 

I don't use a Cyber Twin. Very few people do.
Nor do I use many of the several dozen other MIDI devices and applications that I regularly assist others in using.
As a former programmer and all-around IT professional I AM very good at reading manuals, which is usually all that it takes.

I can give you a sysex that you can install on your FCB to control your Cyber Twin.
I can teach you how to do it yourself.
I CANNOT read your mind, nor can I do the actual work for you.
You WILL need to answer my questions and follow my directions.
You may also have to read some directions from a manual. I can help you with understanding them, but I WON'T RE-TYPE them here.

You first asked about the tuner 10 years ago.
The answer is to send the Cyber Twin PC#127.
Do you want to be able to do that from EVERY FCB Bank? Or from Pedal 10 in one bank only?
You want to be able to use your left (inside) Expression Pedal for something.
What Cyber Twin parameter, exactly, from the list I provided, would you like to use it for?
Or would you like to be able to control different parameters from different banks?

To create and install the sysex required to use the FCB to control the Cyber Twin, will you be using an Editor such as the FREE Ed Dixon/MtnSys editor located in the Files section of this forum(FCB1010PcEditorInstall.zip):

https://fcb1010.groups.io/g/main/files/FCB1010%20editor
http://www.mtnsys.com/?path=faq-fcb/PCEditor.htm%3f


Or will you be using the Behringer direct on the device method? I HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you use the Editor!

I will be more than happy to assist you with using your FCB with your Cyber Twin.
Please consider the questions I've just asked because, without the answers you can't be helped, by anyone.

Re: expression pedal and continuous controller

dvhonk@...
 

yes that is correct . Do you use a cyber twin se and if so would like a patch to access the tuner with the FCB 1010. My problem is in the making of presets for the cyber twin.

----- Original Message -----
From: EJ SHELDON <bluesrock13@...>
To: main@fcb1010.groups.io
Sent: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 00:35:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [fcb1010] expression pedal and continuous controller

I believe that's what I said, the default is 027.
You need to set it to the CC# of the Cyber Twin function that you want to control.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
What is it that you're asking?



Re: Cyber-Twin tuner setup

dvhonk@...
 

Do you have a cyber twin se? I can send you a step by step guide how to program the FCB 1010 to access the tuner.

Re: Cyber-Twin

chrisw_63
 

Oh.. the manual says the Cyber Twin defaults to MIDI channel '0', also referred to as "omni".  This is a MIDI standard, and means that the amp will listen for MIDI on all channels.

Re: Cyber-Twin

chrisw_63
 

From the manual, Master Volume uses CC#7 (MIDI Standard).  Then further down, CC#109 also says it is Master volume, Gain is CC#102, and there is a separate volume control assigned to CC#103.  The Gain and Volume controls obviously map to the same controls on the front of the amp.  One or both of the Master Volume CC's will match the Master knob - I'd guess both, but you'll probably have to try it to find out for sure.

So, in the FCB1010 editor, set the pedal you want for volume to CC#07, if you want to control Master volume, or CC 103 for the channel volume.  The Wah is a bit of an issue.  There is no mention in the manual about MIDI control for Wah.  It does mention CC#110 controls "FX Level", with CC#'s 111 through 114 controlling "FX Value 1" through "FX Value 4".  On Page 16 begins a list of all the effects and their editable values, and it even explains FX Level and the FX Values.  So here's my take:  Set Wah to the Active effect on the amp.  You can only control whatever the active effect is.  We're going to use FX Value 1, so the second control in the list.  On the plus side, there looks to be several other effects you could use the same FCB setup for, including rotary, phaser, and tremolo.

In the FCB1010 editor, set the pedal you want to control the Wah to CC#111.  If their list implies what I think it does, when Pedal Wah is the Active Effect, then:

CC#    What it Does when Pedal Wah is Active
====================================
110     Wah amount  (dry/wet?)
111     Wah (std wah pedal?)  <<==== This should be the Wah Pedal frequency sweep.
112     Heel freq.
113     Toe freq.
114     Wah Type

You could use an FCB Footswitch for Wah Type, since there's only two values.  Try setting it to send CC#114 and toggle between 00 and 127 (typical for a toggle using MIDI).  Heal and Toe frequency could also be set using a footswitch - in fact, since each footswitch can send two CC's, one switch can set both.  Choose a footswitch and set the first CC# to 112, then enter a number from 0-127 to represent the Heel frequency.  Set the second CC# to 113 and enter the Toe Freq.  The manual doesn't even try to give a chart of what number maps to what frequency, so you'll have to experiment.  The easiest way is to set the Wah pedal up, connect it to the amp, activate the Pedal Wah effect on the amp and use it.  Watch the numbers in the FCB1010 display.  When you get the low pedal setting where you want it, write down that number.  Same for high setting.  They'll be your Heel and Toe settings, respectively.  I know most people just accept whatever the Wah pedal gives them and use muscle memory to stop where it sounds best, but this would make it a bit easier if the amp sim goes too far in one or both directions for your liking.

Re: expression pedal and continuous controller

EJ SHELDON
 

I believe that's what I said, the default is 027.
You need to set it to the CC# of the Cyber Twin function that you want to control.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding.
What is it that you're asking?

Re: expression pedal and continuous controller

dvhonk@...
 

I set the cyber twin cc to 27 and the LH pedal will output what ever value is assigned. The RH pedal is always Master volume.

----- Original Message -----
From: EJ SHELDON <bluesrock13@...>
To: main@fcb1010.groups.io
Sent: Sun, 09 Feb 2020 22:56:10 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [fcb1010] expression pedal and continuous controller

I assume that you're using the default FCB1010 settings. CC#007 is defined as the default volume controller in the MIDI spec, and the Cyber Twin implements it that way, that's why your right pedal controls volume. The left pedal is set by default to CC#027, which is NOT implemented in the Cyber Twin. To use that pedal you'll need to assign it a CC# that IS implemented in the Cyber Twin. Appendix 2 Page 27 of the Cyber Twin SE manual lists the available functions and their CC#s:

CC# Parameter Value Range
07 Master Volume (0 - 127)
32 LSB for Bank Changes (0 - 127)
85 Effects/Reverb Bypass OFF=(0-63), ON=(64-127)
86 Hum Reduction OFF=(0–63), ON=(64-127)
96 Data Increment2 (Linked to the Data Wheel)
97 Data Decrement2 (Linked to the Data Wheel)
102 Gain (0 - 127)
103 Volume (0 - 127)
104 Treble (0 - 127)
105 Middle (0 - 127)
106 Bass (0 - 127)
107 Presence (0 - 127)
108 Reverb (0 - 127)
109 Master Volume (0 - 127)
110 FX Level (0 - 127)
111 FX Val 1 (0 - 127)
112 FX Val 2 (0 - 127)
113 FX Val 3 (0 - 127)
114 FX Val 4 (0 - 127)
115 Reverb In [Dwell] (0 - 127)
116 Reverb Tone [Shape] (0 - 127)
117 Reverb Time (0 - 127)
118 Reverb Diffusion (0 - 127)

119 Tap

CC#s/Functions that the Expression Pedals can control are 102-118.



Re: expression pedal and continuous controller

EJ SHELDON
 

I assume that you're using the default FCB1010 settings. CC#007 is defined as the default volume controller in the MIDI spec, and the Cyber Twin implements it that way, that's why your right pedal controls volume. The left pedal is set by default to CC#027, which is NOT implemented in the Cyber Twin. To use that pedal you'll need to assign it a CC# that IS implemented in the Cyber Twin. Appendix 2 Page 27 of the Cyber Twin SE manual lists the available functions and their CC#s:

CC# Parameter Value Range
07 Master Volume (0 - 127)
32 LSB for Bank Changes (0 - 127)
85 Effects/Reverb Bypass OFF=(0-63), ON=(64-127)
86 Hum Reduction OFF=(0–63), ON=(64-127)
96 Data Increment2 (Linked to the Data Wheel)
97 Data Decrement2 (Linked to the Data Wheel)
102 Gain (0 - 127)
103 Volume (0 - 127)
104 Treble (0 - 127)
105 Middle (0 - 127)
106 Bass (0 - 127)
107 Presence (0 - 127)
108 Reverb (0 - 127)
109 Master Volume (0 - 127)
110 FX Level (0 - 127)
111 FX Val 1 (0 - 127)
112 FX Val 2 (0 - 127)
113 FX Val 3 (0 - 127)
114 FX Val 4 (0 - 127)
115 Reverb In [Dwell] (0 - 127)
116 Reverb Tone [Shape] (0 - 127)
117 Reverb Time (0 - 127)
118 Reverb Diffusion (0 - 127)
119 Tap

CC#s/Functions that the Expression Pedals can control are 102-118.

expression pedal and continuous controller

dvhonk@...
 

My question is about my fender cyber twin se and the FCB 1010. The cyber twin talks about an expression pedal assignment and a continuous controller assignment. Can you use the two pedals on the FCB 1010 for this. My outside pedal is master volume and the inner pedal can be programed as a continuous controller. I learned how to use a preset to turn on the turner/mute and press it again to go back to the preset you were on. I need help with MIDI stuff.

Re: Cyber-Twin

dvhonk@...
 

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 01:57 AM, JeffS wrote:
your cyber twin manual says the tuner is PC#127. you just have to make sure your fcb is sending on the same channel your
cyber is set to recieve. i believe your twin defaults to channel 1, but this can be changed. start at page 24 in your cyber manual.
i am unsure whether you can turn it off with the same PC# or if you just simply go back to another patch to exit the tuner
Yes you can. You have to select a sacrificial preset like 10 or 100. I changed mine to #10 top row on the right end. Press once to turn on and again to turn off. I am new to the group and not sure of the rules. My questions are about the 2 Expression Pedals and how to set them up.

[Message from Moderator] I added the quoted text from JeffS as it seemed to be the relevant topic for this reply by dvhonk -- I'm just amazed it took nearly 10 years to be answered!!

Re: How to program Guitar Rig 5 with FCB/UnO editor ? #wanted

EJ SHELDON
 
Edited

Put one of each into a GR5 preset. Make sure you've activated the Exp Pedals by selecting an FCB Preset that contains them.
On the left side of the UI, select OPTIONS.
At the bottom of the Controllers Window select ADD CONTROLLER.
From the CONTROLLER MENU, select your device and the PEDAL parameter. 
Click LEARN (button highlights). Operate the EXP Pedal. Learn will go OFF, indicating that the setting has been learned.
When you operate the assigned pedal the slider on the device image will move.
SAVE THE PRESET!

SHORTCUT:
You can also just right click on the device's slider, and click LEARN and in the following dialog box click OK. This will create the controller.
SAVE THE PRESET!
If you want to make a controller GLOBAL (appears automatically in EVERY PRESET), Click the Controller's MENU and click LOCK.
A little LOCK Icon will appear in the Controller's Title Bar.
SAVE THE PRESET!

You'll still have to add the device to any preset you want it in, but the controller will already be assigned.

Re: How to program Guitar Rig 5 with FCB/UnO editor ? #wanted

Rosen Canev
 

Thank you very much!

I'd like to adjust the left pedal for volume control of the Guitar rig presets, and the right pedal for wah.
Could you give me a hint!