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Re: Programming uno problem

chrisw_63
 

Does sound like a cheap USB MIDI adapter problem.  For those who don't know and might be interested...  The cheaper MIDI USB adapters use an (obviously) cheap microcontroller to take MIDI from USB and send it to the DIN plug, and vice versa.  For most MIDI - notes and control messages - this works fine (assuming it works at all - not a guarantee with the cheap ones).  But the cheap micros have a very small amount of memory, and USB is much faster than MIDI.  So when Control Center tries to send the large SYSEX command to the FCB1010 at USB speeds, their tiny memory gets overwhelmed and some of the SYSEX message is lost.  Think of it like batting practice with a pitching machine.  If you're good, a few balls a minute is fairly easy to hit, no matter how fast the machine is pitching them.  Jack that machine up to a few balls per second, and the batter is going down.

The most commonly used MIDI messages are two to four bytes - tiny!.  SYSEX messages can be as small as three bytes, but that wouldn't do much, and they can be as large as needed.  The SYSEX command to program the FCB is about 2400 bytes - 800x larger than the average MIDI message (well.. average MIDI 1.0 message.  MIDI 2.0 may expand that a bit).  Many of those little microcontrollers only have 2k of RAM, and they need some of it for their program to work, so you can see how they might lose some of the message.


Re: Programming uno problem

EJ SHELDON
 

After you installed the chip, did you do the initialization steps as described on page 1 in the UNO manual?
If YES 
Did you check here:
uno@fcb1010.groups.io | Table
to see if your interface is fully compatible with patch dumps? What make/model is your interface?
FYI - you're in the regular FCB1010 Forum asking UNO questions. I won't tell anybody, but in the future.....


 


Programming uno problem

Charles Fox
 

Hi
I bought the UNO 1.04 chip and installed it, and also the software the FCB Control Center. My MIDI interface is working fine, I can see the messages from the FCB coming in with the Midi In monitor, and I have set up some global config things on the FCB and it transfers to the software OK. My issue is getting info from the software to the FCB. I can set a preset in the software up the way I want, and it functions correctly with the "simulated FCB", but when I press the "send to FCB" I get "invalid response on patchdump" on my computer, and it erases the FCB, and if I try to send MIDI info from the FCB to the software, the monitor window says "reset" for each  footswitch press. I have initialized the FCB a few times and started over, but I would really like to use this software which I paid for.


Re: Generic uno2 txt

atrecha@...
 

Thanks everyone for all the responses to both my posts.  I’ve been too busy to try your recommendations.   I’ll let you know what the outcome is soon. 

 


Re: managing presets and footswitches

EJ SHELDON
 

Further to the above.
With the UNO chip, in STOMP Mode, you can have 19 Banks of 5 STOMP type switches for CCs or NOTEs (same in every Bank) and 5 normal Preset switches.
Assuming that you'd want variety, you'd probably use the STOMP switches for CCs to turn effects ON/OFF. you could then set each bank to send one Program Change and 4 NOTEs (Arpeggios?).

With the UNO2 Chip you can have up to 200 Banks (limited by available memory) configured most any way you like.
A Bank could send a Program Change and 8 notes for a whole scale, with the 10th FS reserved for a "Direct" Bank of 9 switches that can be totally different (but stays the same in every regular bank) with the 10th switch reserved to return to regular banks.

Just some stuff to think about.


Re: managing presets and footswitches

EJ SHELDON
 

You're not missing anything, that's the way it works.
Each bank has 10 switches. They don't ALL have to send Program Changes, but each switch can only send one NOTE.
So, say you have a Preset for Bass, and you want to play "I'm Dumb" (I-V) in key of "A".
Set Switch One to send the Program Change to get the Bass Preset loaded, then on switch Two don't set a PC, just set NOTE "A" (I); then set switch Three the same way but with NOTE "E" (V). One PC change can get you up to 9 NOTES, but that's a whole Bank of switches, and you only have 10 Banks.

Attached is a screenshot of that configuration using the Control Center Editor.


managing presets and footswitches

Charles Fox
 

I have a question about presets and the footswitches. If I have a preset programmed, say bank 0 number one, and I also want to have footswitches one and two trigger  notes, the footswitches play the note but then change the preset. I want the preset to stay the same while using the footswitches for different functions. This occurs whether in direct select or not. What am I missing?


Re: Anyone else using fbc 1010 with a Korg Kronos?

Charles Fox
 

Sounds interesting, I want to use two midi channels to control my Kawai es110 piano and the Korg on top as a two layer setup, with individual volume control and some extra note triggers. I've got it working OK on the Korg, and I'm ready to test run the 2nd midi channel for the piano. 


Re: Generic uno2 txt

EJ SHELDON
 
Edited

I'm using v1.6.9.3713 64-bit Professional.
I'm using the file from Ed's UNO2 that I created for Guitar Rig5.
In the Standalone version of BIAS FX, which I hadn't used in ages, I loaded it all up, configured the drivers and MIDI settings, and assigned CCs and Expression pedals without problems. I don't know how that "Generic" file is set up, but it could be that the author is only using a single Value (0 or 127). That would explain why it's needing two presses to get a change. Try my GR5 file.

As to Ableton, before I could get BIASFX to work properly in Ableton I had to get it set up and working in Standalone Mode. IDK why, but once I did that it worked properly. Attached is a screenshot of the configuration in Ableton.

EDIT: playing around with this some more, they haven't changed the MIDI toggle function, it still merely flips the ON/OFF status on receipt of EITHER 127 or zero.
I still hate Positive Grid. What this means to you is that even if the author of the generic control file only used one value, it should work.


Re: Generic uno2 txt

Jack.taylor12@...
 

I'm having issues with BiasFX in ableton. It seems to take two messages to activate a pedal, or a change in a CC message. Any thoughts ? I've found a few channels that don't do this so am using those for now but its irritating. 0 and 120-127 seem to activate with one midi message. 


Re: Template live loops Logic Pro x for fcb1010

Ron van Veen
 

My live-setup is a combination of a keyboard/synth and a masterkeyboard with a MacBook Air. On stage I use Maistage, not Logic! The FCB1010 is used for expression, volume and effects.
The banks on the FCB store the programs of both keyboard/synth and Mainstage. When pushing a button, the programchange of both is made.

Not exactly what you want to do, but if you know how to setup Logic, you could configuratie the FCB for your needs.

I would not recomment to start with another DAW, every DAW has it’s pro and it’s cons. Being late in the playfield will not say it’s worse, or better! Logic can do more as you can think of, you don’t need anything else!

I would recomment to buy a good Graphical editor for the FCB, a course for understanding MIDI and enough knowledge of your DAW-software.


https://www.macprovideo.com/course/midi101

Groet,
Ron

Op 1 jun. 2021 om 16:20 heeft Henk van Glabbeek <hvanglabbeek@...> het volgende geschreven:

Well I have my own system in using it. I combine it with with some already made beats and soundscapes. 
Also I sometimes use live loops to create new tracks which I afterwards edit and mix in the usual Logic grid. 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 1 jun. 2021 om 14:42 heeft chrisw_63 <chrisw_63@...> het volgende geschreven:

Are you actually performing live?  Because not only is Logic Pro late to the game with live looping, it's not really designed for live performances.  This guy explains it better than I can here.  (Link is supposed to start at 2:35 - go there if it doesn't.)

While I can't help you any better than that video can, if you are wanting to perform live, I would recommend using Ableton Live.  It is designed, after all, from day one and the ground up for live performance.


Re: Anyone else using fbc 1010 with a Korg Kronos?

Indrek4
 

Hello! I use FCB1010 with Roland's Integra 7. I have original "Factory chip" and for programming app: iFCB X 2.5.8. Official: https://wabbitwanch.net/wabbitwanchcom/ (don't offer this anymore); found yet: https://macdownload.informer.com/ifcb/download/ . I purchased one years ago. Works fine - I use it for selecting "Studio Sets" - Integra has them 64 pieces, with 16 parts each. As I used Yamaha's P-80 piano for keyboard (from keyboard goes to output only 1...2 MIDI channels, Layers) I used MIDI SOLUTIONS to get 3+3 Layers from 2.


Re: Generic uno2 txt

atrecha@...
 

Ill try it out.. Thanks!


Re: Generic uno2 txt

EJ SHELDON
 

If you're asking about using GR5 in Ableton, my file that you've already found will work fine.
If you're talking about using Ableton for looping, I posted a file for that too.


Re: Generic uno2 txt

David Grosz
 

Not sure exactly what your looking for but I made this for others so take a look and copy paste into your editor

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 6:48:52 PM PDT, atrecha@... <atrecha@...> wrote:


Anyone have a generic mapping that I can use to assign pedals as on/off and the expression pedals accordingly in ableton/guitar rig?  Thanks in advance! 

alex


Generic uno2 txt

atrecha@...
 

Anyone have a generic mapping that I can use to assign pedals as on/off and the expression pedals accordingly in ableton/guitar rig?  Thanks in advance! 

alex


Anyone else using fbc 1010 with a Korg Kronos?

Charles Fox
 

Just curious, I got one after seeing a youtube vid about how all the control options worked. The "riverdance" programming was a steep learning curve, I still am learning about the software editors.My midi connection is fine. I found out after reading the topics in this form I need the Uno chip, so I ordered one. I need momentary action from the footswitches. Any wisdom from those who are further down this road? Which functions are you using?


Re: Template live loops Logic Pro x for fcb1010

Henk van Glabbeek
 

https://youtu.be/oH9-kT9cOAA

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 1 jun. 2021 om 16:20 heeft Henk van Glabbeek <hvanglabbeek@...> het volgende geschreven:

Well I have my own system in using it. I combine it with with some already made beats and soundscapes. 
Also I sometimes use live loops to create new tracks which I afterwards edit and mix in the usual Logic grid. 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 1 jun. 2021 om 14:42 heeft chrisw_63 <chrisw_63@...> het volgende geschreven:

Are you actually performing live?  Because not only is Logic Pro late to the game with live looping, it's not really designed for live performances.  This guy explains it better than I can here.  (Link is supposed to start at 2:35 - go there if it doesn't.)

While I can't help you any better than that video can, if you are wanting to perform live, I would recommend using Ableton Live.  It is designed, after all, from day one and the ground up for live performance.


Re: Template live loops Logic Pro x for fcb1010

Henk van Glabbeek
 

This I have received via Facebook 

https://youtu.be/6K26HC7KtQs

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 1 jun. 2021 om 16:20 heeft Henk van Glabbeek <hvanglabbeek@...> het volgende geschreven:

Well I have my own system in using it. I combine it with with some already made beats and soundscapes. 
Also I sometimes use live loops to create new tracks which I afterwards edit and mix in the usual Logic grid. 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 1 jun. 2021 om 14:42 heeft chrisw_63 <chrisw_63@...> het volgende geschreven:

Are you actually performing live?  Because not only is Logic Pro late to the game with live looping, it's not really designed for live performances.  This guy explains it better than I can here.  (Link is supposed to start at 2:35 - go there if it doesn't.)

While I can't help you any better than that video can, if you are wanting to perform live, I would recommend using Ableton Live.  It is designed, after all, from day one and the ground up for live performance.


Re: Template live loops Logic Pro x for fcb1010

Henk van Glabbeek
 

Well I have my own system in using it. I combine it with with some already made beats and soundscapes. 
Also I sometimes use live loops to create new tracks which I afterwards edit and mix in the usual Logic grid. 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 1 jun. 2021 om 14:42 heeft chrisw_63 <chrisw_63@...> het volgende geschreven:

Are you actually performing live?  Because not only is Logic Pro late to the game with live looping, it's not really designed for live performances.  This guy explains it better than I can here.  (Link is supposed to start at 2:35 - go there if it doesn't.)

While I can't help you any better than that video can, if you are wanting to perform live, I would recommend using Ableton Live.  It is designed, after all, from day one and the ground up for live performance.

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