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Re: Which Prom is the best to use with Ableton and which mode of that Prom?

Raul Ramirez Ramirez <raulramirezramirez@...>
 

Por favor me pueden enviar la información en español.

Gracias


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El miércoles, 4 de marzo de 2020 04:56:58 a. m. GMT-5, Michael McInerney <mickiemac@...> escribió:


I’m no expert. I use the factory everything and program in as I need. Seems to work for my needs which are layering multiple instruments and tracks for loops and film.

 

I’d be happy to know other’s ways too!

Michael

 

From: main@fcb1010.groups.io <main@fcb1010.groups.io> On Behalf Of stephenzhannah@...
Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2020 4:09 PM
To: main@fcb1010.groups.io
Subject: [fcb1010] Which Prom is the best to use with Ableton and which mode of that Prom?

 

Hello!

I'm hoping to use my FCB1010 primarily with Ableton as a midi controller to live loop. Between the factory/original Prom, Uno, and EurekaProm, which is the best? Also, which setting (IE - EurekaProm Programmable mode, original Prom with sending notes and not CCs, etc...) is best? 

In the original Prom, tap-tempo midi signals and other unintended midi signals keep getting sent - making Ableton programming and usage difficult. 

Has someone cracked the nut on this? If yes, could you send over the Sysex you're using?

Thanks so much, all!!! Happy to send more info if it'd be helpful.

 


Re: Guide To The FCB1010

Roger Colwell
 

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 06:54 PM, Raul Ramirez Ramirez wrote:
Por favor me pueden colocar en español el mensaje
"Decidí cambiar el nombre de esa sección a Bases de datos> Enlaces y avisos, ya que parecía ser una solución que valía la pena y fácil, sin embargo, estoy abierto a sugerencias alternativas (de cualquier miembro) sobre dónde mejor publicar dichos consejos."

It is possible for you to make your own English to Spanish translations by using Google Translate:
https://translate.google.es/
Puede realizar sus propias traducciones del inglés al español utilizando Google Translate:
https://translate.google.es/
 
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Roger Colwell
FCB1010 Group Owner/Moderator


Re: Guide To The FCB1010

raulramirezramirez@...
 

Por favor me pueden colocar en español el mensaje

Gracias


Raúl Ramírez Ramírez
Gerente General
Ramírez Editores y Consultores S.A.C.
www.ramirezcontabilidad.com
www.linkedin.com/in/raulramirezramirez
www.facebook.com/ramirezcontabilidad
Tel 989 396 861
raulramirez@...


El miércoles, 4 de marzo de 2020 05:31:05 a. m. GMT-5, Roger Colwell <roger.colwell@...> escribió:


I decided to rename that section to Databases > Links & Advisories as it seemed to be a worthwhile and easy solution, however I'm open to alternative suggestions (from any members) regarding where best to publish such advice.
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Roger Colwell
FCB1010 Group Owner/Moderator


Programming flowchart X-Air 18

networker1@...
 

Greetings...

I searched and found no posts related to this. I am totally new to MIDI and programming.
Does anybody has a programming flowchart for use with the X-Air 18? I am attaching the MIDI info for the mixer.

Thanks!!


Re: Fixed Flashing '88' problem!

Michael King
 

Correct Chris. I haven’t played with my 1010 in years. I think I misunderstood what the young lady was asking. Anyway...that’s what happens when you get old and fighting cancer. Thank you for reminding me of the difference. 

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 9:29 AM chrisw_63 <chrisw_63@...> wrote:

Regarding Anna's question about EPROM vs. RAM, for general Info:
RAM stands for Random Access Memory.  It is typically 'volatile', meaning it loses all of it's information when you remove power from the chip.
ROM stands for Read Only Memory.  The original ROM chips were typically permanently programmed at the factory, could not be programmed by users, and were not erasable.
PROM is Programmable Read Only Memory.  User programmable with a "PROM Programmer" that uses a higher voltage (typically 12 v) to blow fuses that permanently program the memory chip.
EPROM is Erasable Programmable... you get the picture.  Also user programmable with a different programmer, these have a quartz window in the top so UV light can erase the chip and it can be reprogrammed.  It made PROM chips reusable, even though erasing them took up to 12 hours.  Many were designed to match the pinout of a PROM so they could be a drop-in replacement.
EEPROM is Electrically Erasable...  Sending the right signals to the pins of an EEPROM erases it so you can program it again.  Only takes a few seconds to erase.
In many cases, all of these are referred to as ROMs, and all but the plain ROM can be referred to as PROMs.  Most modern microprocessors have EEPROM built in, reducing the need for an external ROM chip of any kind.
The FCB1010 has One 256 KB EPROM that holds the Firmware, and one external 32 KB RAM chip, along with the 80C32 microprocessor that has it's own 256 bytes of RAM.


Re: Fixed Flashing '88' problem!

chrisw_63
 


Regarding Anna's question about EPROM vs. RAM, for general Info:
RAM stands for Random Access Memory.  It is typically 'volatile', meaning it loses all of it's information when you remove power from the chip.
ROM stands for Read Only Memory.  The original ROM chips were typically permanently programmed at the factory, could not be programmed by users, and were not erasable.
PROM is Programmable Read Only Memory.  User programmable with a "PROM Programmer" that uses a higher voltage (typically 12 v) to blow fuses that permanently program the memory chip.
EPROM is Erasable Programmable... you get the picture.  Also user programmable with a different programmer, these have a quartz window in the top so UV light can erase the chip and it can be reprogrammed.  It made PROM chips reusable, even though erasing them took up to 12 hours.  Many were designed to match the pinout of a PROM so they could be a drop-in replacement.
EEPROM is Electrically Erasable...  Sending the right signals to the pins of an EEPROM erases it so you can program it again.  Only takes a few seconds to erase.
In many cases, all of these are referred to as ROMs, and all but the plain ROM can be referred to as PROMs.  Most modern microprocessors have EEPROM built in, reducing the need for an external ROM chip of any kind.
The FCB1010 has One 256 KB EPROM that holds the Firmware, and one external 32 KB RAM chip, along with the 80C32 microprocessor that has it's own 256 bytes of RAM.


Re: 88 msg + won't let me factory reset

chrisw_63
 

This is most certainly NOT anything you did, unless you zapped it with a taser or hooked the MIDI jack up to mains power.  The factory reset is hard coded into the unit and should always work.  If you cannot factory reset, your FCB1010 is defective and you should get a replacement (if you bought it new) or a refund.  I have no doubt that whatever is wrong is an easy fix, but at the rates repair shops charge you're better off just returning the unit.

Should you have some reason you can't or don't want to return it, there are a couple things to try.  The first is getting a new PROM - the firmware chip.  My guess is it's something electronic that failed, so it's a long shot, but the UnO chip is only $20 or so.  Next if you have a friend or someone you trust that works in the electronics industry you can ask to take a look, give them a shot. Most repair shops will charge you well over half the price of a new FCB1010.  Unless you bought it for next to nothing, it's not worth it.


Re: Guide To The FCB1010

Roger Colwell
 

I decided to rename that section to Databases > Links & Advisories as it seemed to be a worthwhile and easy solution, however I'm open to alternative suggestions (from any members) regarding where best to publish such advice.
--
Roger Colwell
FCB1010 Group Owner/Moderator


Re: Guide To The FCB1010

Roger Colwell
 

Sorry Faith, scrap that idea, I had forgotten that the Databases > Links section relates to imported links from Yahoo (that were transferred here when we moved the platform to Groups.io). I'll look into adding a new database section there for this purpose ...
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Re: Guide To The FCB1010

Roger Colwell
 

Thanks for your couple of recent topics with links, however, I suggest that these, and any future similar topics, are better suited to the Databases > Links section. I'm unable to move them so am requesting that you repost there as well ... thanks.
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Roger Colwell
FCB1010 Group Owner/Moderator


Re: Which Prom is the best to use with Ableton and which mode of that Prom?

Michael McInerney <mickiemac@...>
 

I’m no expert. I use the factory everything and program in as I need. Seems to work for my needs which are layering multiple instruments and tracks for loops and film.

 

I’d be happy to know other’s ways too!

Michael

 

From: main@fcb1010.groups.io <main@fcb1010.groups.io> On Behalf Of stephenzhannah@...
Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2020 4:09 PM
To: main@fcb1010.groups.io
Subject: [fcb1010] Which Prom is the best to use with Ableton and which mode of that Prom?

 

Hello!

I'm hoping to use my FCB1010 primarily with Ableton as a midi controller to live loop. Between the factory/original Prom, Uno, and EurekaProm, which is the best? Also, which setting (IE - EurekaProm Programmable mode, original Prom with sending notes and not CCs, etc...) is best? 

In the original Prom, tap-tempo midi signals and other unintended midi signals keep getting sent - making Ableton programming and usage difficult. 

Has someone cracked the nut on this? If yes, could you send over the Sysex you're using?

Thanks so much, all!!! Happy to send more info if it'd be helpful.

 


Which Prom is the best to use with Ableton and which mode of that Prom?

Stephen Hannah
 

Hello!

I'm hoping to use my FCB1010 primarily with Ableton as a midi controller to live loop. Between the factory/original Prom, Uno, and EurekaProm, which is the best? Also, which setting (IE - EurekaProm Programmable mode, original Prom with sending notes and not CCs, etc...) is best? 

In the original Prom, tap-tempo midi signals and other unintended midi signals keep getting sent - making Ableton programming and usage difficult. 

Has someone cracked the nut on this? If yes, could you send over the Sysex you're using?

Thanks so much, all!!! Happy to send more info if it'd be helpful.


Guide To The FCB1010

Faith Banini <faithbanini@...>
 
Edited

 
Overview
 
The FCB1010 is a MIDI controller pedal.  It is used to control other MIDI gear like guitar modelers, MIDI capable guitar amps, rack mounted effects units and synthesizers.  The most common use is to change sound presets in another piece of MIDI music gear.
 
The FCB1010 has 10 number buttons, two expressions pedals and some other controls and options. 
 
To make the FCB1010 work with your gear, you will need to do a few things.
 
Lets take a detailed look at some of them and do a little trouble shooting

[URL redacted by moderator]
 


Re: blinking 88 at switch on - without Midi In Connected

Ronald Magidson
 

Anna,

Just saw your email. Looks like you have a couple issues... first.... Did you find the UNO EPROM you were looking for?

Ron

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020, 3:45 PM anna <meadorsanna@...> wrote:
(Sorry again for jumping on old threads!) Did you mean replace the unit or replacing the Eprom? I'm having the same issue, flashing 88 whether or not the midi cables are plugged in, and can't reset anything. Thanks!


Re: Fixed Flashing '88' problem!

ossandust
 

There is some confusion possible when reading the replies, so here are the details : 
flashing 88 can have 2 possible causes : 
1. The original idea of the flashing 88 was to indicate that the RAM chip is defective. For that, the Behringer firmware writes to the RAM chip at startup, and reads back the data. If there is a difference, this indicates a RAM defect which is shown through a flashing "88" being displayed.
2. However there is a bug in the Behringer firmware : when a MIDI IN cable is connected, and MIDI data is being sent to the FCB1010 during startup, this data also ends up in the RAM and confuses the RAM test, resulting in a flashing "88".
Therefore, first thing to do is power on the FCB1010 with no cable connected to the MIDI IN. If you still have the flashing "88", it is a correct indication of a defective RAM, and the RAM chip needs to be replaced. This should preferably be done in a service centre, since it involves desoldering a small SMD device and soldering in the replacement part.  
If you only have the flashing 88 with a MIDI cable connected to the MIDI IN connector, it's just the firmware bug. It can be avoided by always unplugging the MIDI cable during startup, or it can be solved by upgrading the firmware to UnO, which has this bug corrected. Replacing the firmware means swapping the PROM chip (not the RAM or EEPROM). This is easy and can be done by anyone - as correctly described above by Michael King.


Re: Fixed Flashing '88' problem!

anna
 

Thank you! And apologies for the dumb follow-up question, but is the Eprom the same as the RAM chip? I guess I'm worried, since the o.p. put in the UnO chip and still had a flashing 88 issue, until replacing the other chip? Thanks!


Re: Fixed Flashing '88' problem!

Michael King
 

You can look up the instructions online. It’s pretty simple. You take off the bottom, and you’ll see the EEPROM Chip. It will have a paper tag on it. You very carefully pry the chip up. Moving around the chip so that it comes out as evenly as possible. Note the orientation on the Chip. It can be installed incorrectly. Take a picture of the chip before you remove it. That way you’ll have a reference when replacing the chip. Push the new chip down evenly, and make sure it’s seated properly. Good luck!!

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 12:45 PM anna <meadorsanna@...> wrote:
(I realize this is probably hopeless asking 10 years later but...) I'd also like to know how you replaced the RAM chip! I have a brand new, completely useless unit and I'm very sad. :( :( 


Re: blinking 88 at switch on - without Midi In Connected

anna
 

(Sorry again for jumping on old threads!) Did you mean replace the unit or replacing the Eprom? I'm having the same issue, flashing 88 whether or not the midi cables are plugged in, and can't reset anything. Thanks!


Re: Fixed Flashing '88' problem!

anna
 

(I realize this is probably hopeless asking 10 years later but...) I'd also like to know how you replaced the RAM chip! I have a brand new, completely useless unit and I'm very sad. :( :( 


88 msg + won't let me factory reset

anna
 

Hey everyone! I searched the threads and couldn't find a solution, so apologies if I missed something! I recently got an FCB1010 (using the chip it comes with, no upgrades) and I was trying to send program it to send midi messages to MaxMSP. I got sort of close from doing the programming via 'riverdance' (lol) but it would send multiple numbers, sometimes weird numbers that I didn't program, etc. I had a friend help me out, and downloaded the FCB1010 Manager, but I made the mistake of opening it when my FCB was plugged into my computer (with both midi in and out plugged in), and ever since then, I get the flashing 88 when I turn on my FCB. 

I didn't send anything to it when I opened the Manager, but that is definitely when the problem started. Other info: I'm using a Roland UM-ONE mk2, going into an apple USB C adapter, with my mid-2019 Macbook Pro. 

I can't factory reset, I can't turn it on in global config mode, I can't do a pedal calibration, it always turns on with the 88. I can get it to stop blinking if I go to edit on of the pedals, but it doesn't solve anything, since it still sends multiple numbers, or nothing at all, to Max... ughhh

I'm hoping there is a fix, I guess worst case scenario I'll try getting one of the upgrade chips, but does anyone have any recommendations to try before that? Will the upgrade chip even help with this? Thanks in advance!

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