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Re: WTB: FCB eprom upgrade

barryspearce <bsp.egroups@...>
 

Hi,

I'm sorry to bring this to the list.
I know there has been so much poo
flung between two of the suppliers.

Who has FCB 1010 eproms for sale
in the USA (I'm in Phoenix)?

The list of suppliers on the FCB
list and on the V-amp list is filled
with dead email links, no email links
(bet that guy doesn't do much business)
and some people who have simply not
responded to my emails.
Look under the Bookmarks section of this list...in fact wait here -
choose this link....

http://home.usit.net/~slloyd/v_eprom.html

or e-mail Sam Lloyd at

sam_lloyd18@...

Sam will get you sorted out OK...Obviously youve had the same crap
Ive had. One supplier told me the upgrade was chargeable - then I
pointed out my unit was 2 weeks old, had shipped with an addendum to
to manual for 2.2 s/w and obviously should have had it having only
been shipped from germany 3 weeks ago (and yes I know this because
Behringer themselves told me the exact date they shipped to the
dealer in the UK)...as you can imagine im was fed up trying to get
chips - Sam has done some chips for me and is shipping to the UK -
(Cheers Sam) I should have them within the next week with any
luck...You should be able to get them quite quickly in US..couple
days or so..

Hope this helps,
Barry

Re: FCB 1010 Expression Pedal Question

Mike Whitaker
 

On Thursday 25 April 2002 09:00 am, barryspearce wrote:
Hi,

Thanks Barry. I'll just put it on a wish list and send it to
Behringer for the next update.
While you are there - could you please ask them to stop doing MIDI
channel assignments at global level - and do them at patch level?

This way I could use the second expression pedal to output to
different units on different patches - especially useful as I am
controlling 5 units with this...
They do read this list.
--
Mike Whitaker: http://www.altrion.org/guitars.html
FCB1010 page: http://www.altrion.org/fcb1010/

Re: WTB: FCB eprom upgrade

bradleyfalch <bradleyfalch@...>
 

--- In fcb1010@y..., "Lumpy" <lumpy@d...> wrote:
I'm sorry to bring this to the list.
I know there has been so much poo
flung between two of the suppliers.
Lumpy,

If you want to avoid those guys, a place like Phoenix should have
several electronics stores that can burn you one. Just ask around!
You can get it "while you wait" and probably pay under $5. Phoenix
has so many chip companies, I'm sure somebody local supplies and
burns them. Just download the .bin file from Behringer, unzip it,
and take a floppy to your local supplier.....

-Brad

Volume Swells

scrathbun <ny10547@...>
 

Hi all. Hope I didn't post this question twice.
Anyways, I was using a preset I believe it is called Whale Watching.
It has a nice long reverb that decays slowly after you stop playing.
I tried to do a volume swell to make it sound really cool, however, I
found that as I rolled the volume pedal forward, nothing happened for
the first few millimeters of throw. Then all of a sudden the volume
jumped on at a moderate level. If I kept pushing the pedal forward,
then the volume swelled nicely the rest of the way. I tried to
recalibrate the pedal, but to no avail. I also made sure that the
settings were correct on the FCB and V-Amp. As it stands, volume
swells are unusable because of the poor initial part of the swell.
There is no smooth transition from OFF to HI. Has anyone else
encountered this problem? Were you able to correct it? Thanks for
your help.
Scott

Tap Tempo for FCB and V-Amp

scrathbun <ny10547@...>
 

Could someone please walk me through the process on setting up the
FCB and V-Amp so I can use footswitch #10 to adjust the tap tempo. I
have tried to follow the manual and thought I got it at one point but
it wasn't working correctly. Oh well. Thanks for the help again.
Scott

Re: Volume Swells

Luca <bluedolphin@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "scrathbun" <ny10547@...>
To: <fcb1010@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:24 AM
Subject: [fcb1010] Volume Swells


Hi all. Hope I didn't post this question twice.
Anyways, I was using a preset I believe it is called Whale Watching.
I noticed it too... no idea of a possible solution.

Programming the FCB1010 via software

zentheis
 

Does anyone have the MIDI Sysex Implementation charts for the
FCB1010? I am writing software that can be used to program the
FCB1010 on a PC. I contacted Behringer technical support looking for
the documents and they would not provide me with anything. The
manual for the unit does not go into any Sysex(System Exclusive)
details.

So, if you want Software for the FCB1010 then everyone should send in
a request to Behringer. They might not be willing to write the code,
but at the least they should give us the implementation charts (other
companies provide them for their equipment).

Currently, I am attempting to reverse engineer the Sysex data from a
MIDI dump, but this will take a while. The development cycle would be
much faster with the documentation.

So, this is what is needed:
-dump request macro (if possible)
-MIDI SYSEX Implementation chart

Thanks,
zentheis

Re: Programming the FCB1010 via software

Mike Whitaker
 

On Saturday 27 April 2002 18:29 pm, zentheis wrote:

Currently, I am attempting to reverse engineer the Sysex data from a
MIDI dump, but this will take a while. The development cycle would be
much faster with the documentation.
I was also considering doing this: it might be useful if you shared any
interim results with the list.
--
Mike Whitaker: http://www.altrion.org/guitars.html
FCB1010 page: http://www.altrion.org/fcb1010/

Re: Volume Swells

scrathbun <ny10547@...>
 

--- In fcb1010@y..., "Luca" <bluedolphin@l...> wrote:

----- Original Message -----
From: "scrathbun" <ny10547@a...>
To: <fcb1010@y...>
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:24 AM
Subject: [fcb1010] Volume Swells


Hi all. Hope I didn't post this question twice.
Anyways, I was using a preset I believe it is called Whale
Watching.

I noticed it too... no idea of a possible solution.
Thanks Luca. I wrote Behringer as well. Will see what they say and
post it.

Re: Volume Swells

barryspearce <bsp.egroups@...>
 

Hi,

This may well be a V-Amp Issue - I use an FCB1010 with a GT-3 and the
expression pedals on the FCB1010 work fine. Yeah the vol doesnt move
for the first 3mm of travel - nor the last 3mm - but there again Ive
not found an expression pedal that does yet...(Boss GT-3, Roland EV-
5, Digitech MC2...etc).

However, once the MIDI starts transmitting its fairly linear across
its range. Im happy with it.

Hope this helps,
Barry

Hi all. Hope I didn't post this question twice.
Anyways, I was using a preset I believe it is called Whale
Watching.

I noticed it too... no idea of a possible solution.
Thanks Luca. I wrote Behringer as well. Will see what they say and
post it.

Re: Volume Swells

scrathbun <ny10547@...>
 

--- In fcb1010@y..., "barryspearce" <bsp.egroups@f...> wrote:
Hi,

This may well be a V-Amp Issue - I use an FCB1010 with a GT-3 and
the
expression pedals on the FCB1010 work fine. Yeah the vol doesnt
move
for the first 3mm of travel - nor the last 3mm - but there again
Ive
not found an expression pedal that does yet...(Boss GT-3, Roland EV-
5, Digitech MC2...etc).

However, once the MIDI starts transmitting its fairly linear across
its range. Im happy with it.

Hope this helps,
Barry

Hi all. Hope I didn't post this question twice.
Anyways, I was using a preset I believe it is called Whale
Watching.

I noticed it too... no idea of a possible solution.
Thanks Luca. I wrote Behringer as well. Will see what they say
and
post it.
Thanks for the info Barry. I think your right about the V-Amp being
the problem. It seems to respond to other midi input slowly as well.
Oh well. Will just have to adjust.
Scott

Re: Volume Swells

broadsidetom
 

I had a similar problem with my FCB1010 (with a Roland GP100). It
wouldn't send any MIDI message until you got the pedal noticeably
away from the bottom of its travel. I can't blame it on the fx unit,
as it responds well to other controllers I've used.

I solved the problem by sticking 3M "Bumpon" pads onto the chassis of
the FCB1010, under the rubber pads at the heel of the expression
pedals. Then I recalibrated the pedals. In other words, I keep the
pedals from going down into the "dead zone." So far this has worked
fine, though I haven't gigged with it yet.

If you want to try this, the 3M part number is 04868. I got them at
K-mart for a few bucks.

hope that helps -

Tom R

www.broadside.org

Re: Volume Swells

Mike Whitaker
 

On Tuesday 30 April 2002 01:41 am, you wrote:
I had a similar problem with my FCB1010 (with a Roland GP100). It
wouldn't send any MIDI message until you got the pedal noticeably
away from the bottom of its travel. I can't blame it on the fx unit,
as it responds well to other controllers I've used.
You have run the pedal calibration procedure on my FCB1010 page, yes?
--
Mike Whitaker: http://www.altrion.org/guitars.html
FCB1010 page: http://www.altrion.org/fcb1010/

Re: Volume Swells

broadsidetom
 

--- In fcb1010@y..., Mike Whitaker <fcb1010@a...> wrote:
On Tuesday 30 April 2002 01:41 am, Tom wrote:
I had a similar problem with my FCB1010 (with a Roland GP100). It
wouldn't send any MIDI message until you got the pedal noticeably
away from the bottom of its travel.
You have run the pedal calibration procedure on my FCB1010 page,
yes?

Yes, repeatedly and in every variation I could think of (and thank
you for posting it, because I would have been really clueless without
it). Unfortunately, it had no effect.

See my message of March 23 (subject: Foot pedal "dead zone" problem)
for the details, but the crux of the matter is that movements in that
part of my pedal's throw are not "felt" by the mechanism. It appears
to me that calibration only serves to map the pedal's internal values
(displayed during calibration) to the MIDI values that are actually
sent. In my case, movements in the bottom few mm of the throw do not
change the internal values, so there is (in effect) nothing to
calibrate to.

regards,
Tom R

Controller switch over function

gdomeier2000 <gregdomeier@...>
 

I have the new 2.2 eprom installed, but I'm having problems enabling
the controller switch over function (off/on delay in this case).
I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

First, I went into global setup and pressed UP/ENTER. I pressed 6
(for controller 1) then pressed UP/ENTER again. I presed 0 then 6
to set controller 1 to midi channel 6. Pressed UP/ENTER again to
save. I repeated the process for controller 2 also setting it to 6.

Next I went into my preset edit on the floorboard and enabled both
controllers and also set both controllers to 06 and value of 12 (my
preamp listes on channel 12 for delay).

OK, go out and press my preset, but the delay doesn't switch on and
off. I have no problems setting my expression pedals to toggle
effects.

So, what step or steps have I gotten wrong?

thanks

greg

Re: Controller switch over function

barryspearce <bsp.egroups@...>
 

Hi Greg,

First, I went into global setup and pressed UP/ENTER. I pressed 6
(for controller 1) then pressed UP/ENTER again. I presed 0 then 6
to set controller 1 to midi channel 6. Pressed UP/ENTER again to
save. I repeated the process for controller 2 also setting it to 6.
Yep thats good - both set to MIDI Channel 6.

Next I went into my preset edit on the floorboard and enabled both
controllers and also set both controllers to 06 and value of 12 (my
preamp listes on channel 12 for delay).
aha. Here is where you went wrong. 06? nonono...Set the controller
both to 12 (controller 12 = delay on/off) if the preamp does not
specfify values set controller 1 to 0 and controller 2 to 127.
Failing that try controller 2 set to 1.

The way you have it set up at the mo no switching will occur because
you are sending out value 12 on MIDI controller (MIDI CC#6) on MIDI
Channel 6. What you what is value 0/127 on MIDI CC#12 on MIDI Channel
6 - does that clear it up for you?

Hope this helps,
Barry

Re: Controller switch over function

gdomeier2000 <gregdomeier@...>
 

Thanks Barry! I had previously tried setting the controllers to 12
but had failed to set the values to 0 and 127. That's a BINGO :)

Now the second question, I also have my expression pedal set to
control volume. If I have the pedal say 1/2 way back to reduce the
volume but step of the patch button again to turn off the delay, the
volume jumps back to full. Is there a way for the fcb10 to send the
expression pedals states on patch change? I have noticed that the
first time a switch to a patch it seems to send that value, but only
the first time.

thank again,

greg


--- In fcb1010@y..., "barryspearce" <bsp.egroups@f...> wrote:
Hi Greg,

First, I went into global setup and pressed UP/ENTER. I pressed
6
(for controller 1) then pressed UP/ENTER again. I presed 0 then
6
to set controller 1 to midi channel 6. Pressed UP/ENTER again
to
save. I repeated the process for controller 2 also setting it
to 6.

Yep thats good - both set to MIDI Channel 6.

Next I went into my preset edit on the floorboard and enabled
both
controllers and also set both controllers to 06 and value of 12
(my
preamp listes on channel 12 for delay).
aha. Here is where you went wrong. 06? nonono...Set the controller
both to 12 (controller 12 = delay on/off) if the preamp does not
specfify values set controller 1 to 0 and controller 2 to 127.
Failing that try controller 2 set to 1.

The way you have it set up at the mo no switching will occur
because
you are sending out value 12 on MIDI controller (MIDI CC#6) on
MIDI
Channel 6. What you what is value 0/127 on MIDI CC#12 on MIDI
Channel
6 - does that clear it up for you?

Hope this helps,
Barry

How do I know which eprom version I have?

strast2002
 

How do I know which eprom version I have?

Re: How do I know which eprom version I have?

gdomeier2000 <gregdomeier@...>
 

--- In fcb1010@y..., "strast2002" <sastra77@x> wrote:
How do I know which eprom version I have?
I believe the only way to know the exact version is to open up the
floor board and read the eprom. If you don't have the 2.2 manual
update in your box, then more than likely you don't have the current
version.

Re: How do I know which eprom version I have?

barryspearce <bsp.egroups@...>
 

Hi,

How do I know which eprom version I have?
I believe the only way to know the exact version is to open up the
floor board and read the eprom. If you don't have the 2.2 manual
update in your box, then more than likely you don't have the
current
version.
I wouldnt trust the inclusion of a manual either. My unit was shipped
from behringer de just a couple or so weeks ago - it came with a 1.1
manual BUT with a 2.2 addendum - implying my unit had 2.2
software....it was only after copy preset didnt work I opened the box
up to find the damn s/w fitted was 1.1 - so just open up the box -
its like 12-15 screws on the panel underneath - the ROM is fairly
obvious if you know what a ROM looks like (IC chip) and the version
number of the software is printed quite clearly on it - so you should
have no problems working out what you have.

Hope this helps,
Barry