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I have the EurekaProm 3.2 having problems

Matsaw
 

New here and just like with my FCB1010 I don't know what I'm doing. So if I'm posting this incorrectly I apologize. Anyway my FCB has the Eureka Prom 3.2 in it I'm trying to get it and my bass V amp pro to communicate and I'm at my wits end. So when I go into A3 configuration since I have the Bass V amp pro do I use VB or is that just for the Bass chip only and if not what do I put VA? i'm running migi out of board to midi in on bass V amp pro nothing It won't change any settings, i'm midi ignorant to start with. Just need someone who knows what they're doing and maybe dumb the steps down for me amy help would be appreciated , thanks

Re: FCB1010 STOCK VERSION. CANNOT MAKE IT WORK WITH GUITAR RIG 4 OR 5... UNDER MAC OR WINDOWS. Sorry for bothering you with newby stuff.

 

Good morning Frederico, I'm a noob. Just got my 1010 yesterday but I think I can tackle this one. First of all this isn't an error exactly. A glitch or a bug maybe but not an error. 
Guitar tig likes to keep things seperate and this means that each preset has it's own set of midi commands possible for the components in that rig. So everytime you switch the preset the fcb board buttons get put back to default. And unfortunately default settings for guitar rig iae that nothing is assigned yet.
Here's what I did. when in the Options/controller column of Guitar Rig Satndalone. pick button 6 and 7 to act as a Rig Kontrol 3, (preset previous and preset next). before switching any presets go back into the menu where you picked the before mentioned control changes adn at the top of the dropdown list click the 'LOCK' option. this will make the pedal designations Global and therfore the same for any preset. Then it is just a matter of organising your presets in groups of song specific sounds that can be easily selected next on the fly. 
Hope this helped
Cheers

Re: FCB1010 STOCK VERSION. CANNOT MAKE IT WORK WITH GUITAR RIG 4 OR 5... UNDER MAC OR WINDOWS. Sorry for bothering you with newby stuff.

chrisw_63
 

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 02:45 PM, EJ SHELDON wrote:
There's a MIDI Monitor program for MAC,
It's actually called Midi Monitor.. go figure..

Re: FCB1010 STOCK VERSION. CANNOT MAKE IT WORK WITH GUITAR RIG 4 OR 5... UNDER MAC OR WINDOWS. Sorry for bothering you with newby stuff.

EJ SHELDON
 

First, find out what your FCB is ACTUALLY sending. There's a MIDI Monitor program for MAC, but I don't remember what it's called (Windows guy here).

Second, you say that when you "try to add controllers...and assign pedal 2 and 3 to bring other presets...". This is confusing. If, for example, Pedal 1 calls a preset (sends a PC), then Pedals 2 and 3 are configured to send CCs to toggle effects (no PC), that makes sense. If you're sending PCs as well as CCs on a single pedal press, that will cause a problem with GR.

Once you have a MIDI Monitor program installed, you'll be able to SEE exactly what is being sent, not guess based on what you THINK you programmed it to do.

FCB1010 STOCK VERSION. CANNOT MAKE IT WORK WITH GUITAR RIG 4 OR 5... UNDER MAC OR WINDOWS. Sorry for bothering you with newby stuff.

federicosanchezg@...
 

Hi everyone!
I bought some days ago a stock FCB1010. I don`t have the possibility to change the chip here in Argentina yet. Firstly, I ran the pedal calibration properly. 
So then, I followed all the internet tutorials to program the pedals, and the expression pedals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI0Sl74oCoI&list=RDhI0Sl74oCoI&index=1 
I connected the FCB to my MAC through an USB/MIDI Cable.
I tried to connect to Guitar Rig, both versions 4 and 5, and I tried to do that with both versions on both Windows and MAC, and the same error happens always.
I followed the configuration recommendations for Guitar Rig. So, here comes the error.... in Guitar Rig, when I try to LEARN with, for example Pedal 1 Bank 00, Guitar Rig assigns correctly Key 1 to that specific controller. My intention has always been to select one Guitar Preset included in Guitar Rig, to select it while I`m playing live. This first selection works fine. Pressing Pedal 1 makes the assigned preset appear. BUt when I try to add controllers... and assign pedal 2 and 3 (Bank 00) to bring other presets... the FCB stops communicating with Guitar Rig... and even pressing pedal 1 (which had been correctly configured previously) doesn`t make any change. And then...no matter what you press on the FCB... nothing else will happen.
Do you have any reccomendation?
I`ve already replaced the MIDI/USB cable twice, so that doesn`t seem to be the problem.
Thank you very much!

Re: New firmware release : "UnO2" v.1.0 #announcement

Jack Fenton
 

OK, it doesn't work there either with any of my MIDI interfaces where they all work with Uno Control Center. In the offline version I don't even get the version of my pedal returned where I do with the web version.

Re: New firmware release : "UnO2" v.1.0 #announcement

Jack Fenton
 

Got it. Thanks!

Re: New firmware release : "UnO2" v.1.0 #announcement

ossandust
 

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 03:33 PM, Jack Fenton wrote:
if I can't see how much memory my current configuration will use, I will not not if I have to use a TinyBox.
Hi Jack,
- you don't need any MIDI-USB connection to check how much memory your configuration will use. Just use the online editor at https://www.fcb1010.eu/uno2_editor.html  You can create a setup with that editor and in the lower status bar it will say how much percentage of the FCB1010 storage it uses. If it's above 100% it won't fit.
- I have the same experience of MIDI in the browser being unreliable (already much better than a few years ago but still...), so it's better to test with the monitor at https://github.com/ossandust/midi-monitor  - the test is in the menu Help > Purchase UnO2 license

Re: Jack Fenton

Jack Fenton
 

Yeah, the idea of BomeBox working as a host means you do not need to connect to a computer, at all,  however you can if you want through a network link.

Re: Jack Fenton

chrisw_63
 

Wow.. I got that one wrong!  Sorry, I thought the BomeBox connected to a computer via USB, too.  Odd that they don't have that option, since the USB connector for power is right there.  Thanks for setting me straight.

I really have to wonder.. if the new firmware is really incompatible with two different iConnectivity boxes - Two of the better MIDI interfaces available today IMO, what is it actually going to work with?


On 5/23/2020 12:19 PM, Jack Fenton via groups.io wrote:
MIO 1 is just a iCOnnectivity cable with a converter box inline so it is just called the mio I think

All of my interfaces work with UnoControl Center. None of them work with the web interface.

As far as BomeBox, it does not have USB connection to a host as a device if I were to try that it would be using a network connection to my PC. The BomeBox USB interface is host only (like a PC).

I guess, I could hook up my FCB1010 to its DIN ports, and then connect to my PC via network and try network MIDI from the web site, but is seems silly since I would never use such a configuration.



Re: Jack Fenton

Jack Fenton
 

MIO 1 is just a iCOnnectivity cable with a converter box inline so it is just called the mio I think

All of my interfaces work with UnoControl Center. None of them work with the web interface.

As far as BomeBox, it does not have USB connection to a host as a device if I were to try that it would be using a network connection to my PC. The BomeBox USB interface is host only (like a PC).

I guess, I could hook up my FCB1010 to its DIN ports, and then connect to my PC via network and try network MIDI from the web site, but is seems silly since I would never use such a configuration.


Jack Fenton

chrisw_63
 

Jack Fenton,
     I'm confused.  You mention four interfaces, and say it failed with three of them - the Mio1, MOTU and Auido4 MIDI.  I would think the fourth one, BomeBox, would be the most likely to work well with just about anything, and yet you don't say if you tried it or not.  I can't find any product named Mio1- iConnectivity makes the 'mio' and the MIDI1+, is it one of those?  It would be good to know which ones work and which do not.

Re: New firmware release : "UnO2" v.1.0 #announcement

Jack Fenton
 

Well I understand why the MOTU crashes because it is an old interface and not class compliant.  I can talk to my FCB using the MIDI Monitor, however I have not tried sending or receiving any long SysEx messages. Again, if I can't see how much memory my current configuration will use, I will not not if I have to use a TinyBox.  If I have to use a TinyBox, i Will just stick with the current UNO firmware along with my BomeBox instead.

Re: fcb1010 and ART SGX 2000

chrisw_63
 

Hi.  I wrote all this before thinking that you may not have experience with English, especially American idioms.  So I'll apologize in advance and ask that, if you have any questions, please ask and I'll try to speak plainly.

Ha!  No, I don't own an SGX, as I don't play guitar - well, at least not seriously.  I've played rhythm guitar in my church, on and off, since I was 15.  I do more keyboards and electronic music now.  I am in my mid 50's, and have grown up with MIDI, so I've read more than a few of these incomprehensible manuals.

So, a quick MIDI primer.  At it's most basic, MIDI can send and receive four different message types.  Note messages, PC - Program Change messages, CC - Control Change messages, and SYSEX (System Exclusive) messages.  SYSEX is just a very generic way to send big blocks of information over MIDI.  It was actually grafted on to MIDI when manufacturers complained they had no way to give their devices initial settings in a fast, easy way.  But SYSEX also became the way for manufacturers to make their products proprietary - a.k.a make sure they'd only work with their own software.  That has gotten better in the last decade or so, but not much.

Note messages are very simple.  They send either a Note On or Note Off message, with an extra byte for Velocity - a number from 0-127 that says how loud a note should be, or how hard a key was pressed.  Yes, Note Off messages still include the Velocity byte.  It was a programmer thing, and made sense at the time.

Program Change messages are pretty much just what they say - a way to select programs or presets.  A lot of manufacturers, either through ignorance or intent, used it in different ways, but it was made for simple selection of presets on a device like your SGX.

Control Change messages were meant to, obviously, control.  They change parameters - volume, balance, filter frequency, etc.  Oddly, early manufacturers left CC's alone, and didn't use them as much for proprietary controls.  They either ignored it entirely or used it as intended, which was great for people like us.  CC messages send an extra byte whose lower seven bits are used as the value of the setting.  This gives values of 0-127, or 128 total 'steps', which was seen as more than enough at the time, and is still very useful.

The zero based numbering is another confusing issue.  I've been a programmer as long as I've been a musician, so I understood it.  But people not exposed to the idea have a problem with the 'zero position' having a meaning.  MIDI channels were most of the problem.  Product developers would say, "People won't understand zero based numbers", so they wrote the manuals saying channels were 1-16, and controls were 1-128.  The software guys didn't agree, and when they wrote their 'appendix' for MIDI, it would be 0-15 and 0-127.  This made for a whole lot of infighting and 'general hate and discontent'.  It ended up having a large effect on the adoption of MIDI.  The internal feud between programmers and product specialists made MIDI seem arcane and the companies seem inept.  Not to mention that getting a programmer to write a comprehensible manual is like getting a chimpanzee to speak English.  Or Greek.  :-)

Ok.. back to the important stuff.  The FCB1010 can only send PC, CC, and Note messages.  For each Preset (every time you press a foot switch), it can send five different PC messages, two different CC messages, and one Note message.  Each preset also sets the CC message number for the two pedals.  A lot of FCB1010 owners have trouble understanding that:  You must select a preset to get the pedals to work.  If you never change the pedal settings, they default to CC 07, Channel Volume, and CC 01, Expression Pedal.  Channel Volume is usually Master Volume or Gain on pedals and amplifiers.

So, that's a little more than I intended to write, but I hope it has helped you in some way.  Keep us updated on the Groups.io FCB1010 forum if you make any progress or need more help.

Best wishes,
Chris W.


On 5/22/2020 7:34 PM, fill cinefil wrote:

Chris as I see, you have read, comprehend, and focus at so many things. Or are you an owner of a SGX2000?:-)
If you have some time please take a look at the things written with a red down bellow, inside your text. Thank you in advance.
Sorry, I didn't introduce myself. Filimon Kaltsounis (65) from Greece.

Στις 22/5/2020 10:04 μ.μ., ο chrisw_63 έγραψε:
Like everything back then, the MIDI part of the manual is.. well, looks like it was written by someone who didn't know what they were writing about - which is probably true.  Sad thing is, it hasn't gotten much better with modern MIDI gear.
:-D  I agree and declare that I have a much more ignorance.


Have you tried the PC messages?  At the top of Appendix C it says:
Program change:
Cxh ddh
x = channel number 0h to Fh for channels 1 to 16
dd = program number 0h to 7Fh or 0 to 127
This is a regular PC (program change) message.  The FCB takes care of the channel (and if the SGX is set to OMNI, channel won't matter).  So a PC 00-127 will recall the first 128 (of 200) presets from the SGX.  The number you see on the SGX will be one more than the number you send via MIDI to recall it.  So if you want to recall preset 94, you use PC 93.
All this thing was explained in the FCB manual and it works just fine

For CC messages (what is the CC messages?), did you set Performance MIDI mode for the preset? (that's something I have to check first thing tomorow morning (you are speaking with Greece now it's 2:30 AM)  It looks like you need to turn that on (page 49) for every preset you want to control with the two FCB pedals.  Jack has it right, when you turn Performance MIDI on you have the option to change the CC number from 04 (the default) to whatever you'd like.  The chart also says CC's are used to turn effects on and off.  The chart at the bottom of page 54 lists these:
EXCITER             70
COMPRESSOR          71
DISTORTION          72
EQUALIZER           73
EXPANDER/NOISE GATE 74
REVERB              75
DELAY               76
PITCH TRANSPOSER    77
FLANGE/CHORUS       78
SPECIAL EFFECTS     79
BYPASS              84
So sending a CC 78 with a value of 0 would turn off the Flanger/Chorus. And a CC 78 with a value of 127 would turn it on.  The 0 and 127 are standard for off/on, but some devices reverse them, so swap them if you need to.
Another thing to try would be connecting it to a PC with a MIDI monitor like MIDI-OX.  The manual mentions it has a MIDI monitor built in, but I didn't read it closely.  Start up the monitor and move the pedals, and you should know which CC numbers to use. I have also to check on this

As far as SYSEX messages, there are two reasons to ignore them.  One, the manual is a bit cryptic about everything except switching OMNI mode.  The other reason is that the FCB can't send SYSEX messages.
Hope this helps.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Re: New firmware release : "UnO2" v.1.0 #announcement

ossandust
 

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 12:28 PM, violet_quartet wrote:

So the TinyBox Editor is mainly like UnO 2 Editor, yes?

Can I also use Tiny Box to monitor my AxeFX status on my PC or tablet (instead of fcb1010 status)?

And can I display the status of another midi controller (which is not fcb1010)?

TinyBox ControlCenter contains a setup editor which looks identical to UnO2ControlCenter, except that the used "programming language" supports more commands than UnO2. But next to this setup editor TinyBoxControlCenter also contains additional applications : a setlist manager to upload lyrics or music scores, an FCB1010 status window, a MIDI monitor, and a webserver for hosting the remote status page.
The TinyBox design has had many iterations over the past years. At one stage the idea was indeed to provide a status display for any MIDI controller, but that was a huge job: it would require a user friendly way to design a custom controller layout and to map all aspects of the controller status to that layout. In the end I changed the design to make it a dedicated FCB1010 add-on, with a dedicated FCB1010 status screen. Apart from that at one point I have released a dedicated "TinyBox4Kemper" a few years ago, which indeed showed the Kemper Profiler status on a tablet, but I no longer plan to work on such brand specific solutions - would be too expensive to buy those units just for R&D purposes (Mr. Kemper was kind enough to lend me a unit for free)

Re: New firmware release : "UnO2" v.1.0 #announcement

violet_quartet
 

Hi Xavier, hi all,

 

So the TinyBox Editor is mainly like UnO 2 Editor, yes?

Can I also use Tiny Box to monitor my AxeFX status on my PC or tablet (instead of fcb1010 status)?

And can I display the status of another midi controller (which is not fcb1010)?

 

I’m a bit overwhelmed with all the features...

 

 

 

 

Von: main@fcb1010.groups.io [mailto:main@fcb1010.groups.io] Im Auftrag von ossandust
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Mai 2020 16:59
An: main@fcb1010.groups.io
Betreff: [fcb1010] New firmware release : "UnO2" v.1.0 #announcement

 

[Edited Message Follows]

I just released brand new firmware. 

"UnO2" is not a successor for the current "UnO" firmware. It's a shrinked down version of the TinyBox firmware (https://www.tinybox.rocks), which takes a completely different approach : 

- any mix of presets, stompboxes, momentary effects possible in each bank

- any number of MIDI messages possible in each preset, on any MIDI channel. 

More info on https://www.fcb1010.eu/uno2.html , where you will also find a link to the manual. 

In the end this became a huge project, of a completely different scale than the UnO firmware (by the time I wrote down all features in detail, the manual was 50 pages long... ) 

The firmware comes with an editor included. The editor can be tried out online : https://www.fcb1010.eu/uno2_editor.html 

and a few examples of the possibilities and programming syntax can be seen here : https://www.fcb1010.eu/uno2_demo.html

Re: fcb1010 and ART SGX 2000

Decca
 

I have had 3 Art SGX in past and loved them all. 
I currently have a Zoom 9.2tt. 

On Sat., May 23, 2020, 4:19 a.m. fill cinefil, <filimonask@...> wrote:

Chris as I see, you have read, comprehend, and focus at so many things. Or are you an owner of a SGX2000?
If you have some time please take a look at the things written with a red down bellow, inside your text. Thank you in advance.
Sorry, I didn't introduce myself. Filimon Kaltsounis (65) from Greece.

Στις 22/5/2020 10:04 μ.μ., ο chrisw_63 έγραψε:
Like everything back then, the MIDI part of the manual is.. well, looks like it was written by someone who didn't know what they were writing about - which is probably true.  Sad thing is, it hasn't gotten much better with modern MIDI gear.
  I agree and declare that I have a much more ignorance.


Have you tried the PC messages?  At the top of Appendix C it says:
Program change:
Cxh ddh
x = channel number 0h to Fh for channels 1 to 16
dd = program number 0h to 7Fh or 0 to 127
This is a regular PC (program change) message.  The FCB takes care of the channel (and if the SGX is set to OMNI, channel won't matter).  So a PC 00-127 will recall the first 128 (of 200) presets from the SGX.  The number you see on the SGX will be one more than the number you send via MIDI to recall it.  So if you want to recall preset 94, you use PC 93.
All this thing was explained in the FCB manual and it works just fine

For CC messages (what is the CC messages?), did you set Performance MIDI mode for the preset? (that's something I have to check first thing tomorow morning (you are speaking with Greece now it's 2:30 AM)  It looks like you need to turn that on (page 49) for every preset you want to control with the two FCB pedals.  Jack has it right, when you turn Performance MIDI on you have the option to change the CC number from 04 (the default) to whatever you'd like.  The chart also says CC's are used to turn effects on and off.  The chart at the bottom of page 54 lists these:
EXCITER             70
COMPRESSOR          71
DISTORTION          72
EQUALIZER           73
EXPANDER/NOISE GATE 74
REVERB              75
DELAY               76
PITCH TRANSPOSER    77
FLANGE/CHORUS       78
SPECIAL EFFECTS     79
BYPASS              84
So sending a CC 78 with a value of 0 would turn off the Flanger/Chorus. And a CC 78 with a value of 127 would turn it on.  The 0 and 127 are standard for off/on, but some devices reverse them, so swap them if you need to.
Another thing to try would be connecting it to a PC with a MIDI monitor like MIDI-OX.  The manual mentions it has a MIDI monitor built in, but I didn't read it closely.  Start up the monitor and move the pedals, and you should know which CC numbers to use. I have also to check on this

As far as SYSEX messages, there are two reasons to ignore them.  One, the manual is a bit cryptic about everything except switching OMNI mode.  The other reason is that the FCB can't send SYSEX messages.
Hope this helps.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Re: fcb1010 and ART SGX 2000

fill cinefil
 

Chris as I see, you have read, comprehend, and focus at so many things. Or are you an owner of a SGX2000?
If you have some time please take a look at the things written with a red down bellow, inside your text. Thank you in advance.
Sorry, I didn't introduce myself. Filimon Kaltsounis (65) from Greece.

Στις 22/5/2020 10:04 μ.μ., ο chrisw_63 έγραψε:
Like everything back then, the MIDI part of the manual is.. well, looks like it was written by someone who didn't know what they were writing about - which is probably true.  Sad thing is, it hasn't gotten much better with modern MIDI gear.
  I agree and declare that I have a much more ignorance.


Have you tried the PC messages?  At the top of Appendix C it says:
Program change:
Cxh ddh
x = channel number 0h to Fh for channels 1 to 16
dd = program number 0h to 7Fh or 0 to 127
This is a regular PC (program change) message.  The FCB takes care of the channel (and if the SGX is set to OMNI, channel won't matter).  So a PC 00-127 will recall the first 128 (of 200) presets from the SGX.  The number you see on the SGX will be one more than the number you send via MIDI to recall it.  So if you want to recall preset 94, you use PC 93.
All this thing was explained in the FCB manual and it works just fine

For CC messages (what is the CC messages?), did you set Performance MIDI mode for the preset? (that's something I have to check first thing tomorow morning (you are speaking with Greece now it's 2:30 AM)  It looks like you need to turn that on (page 49) for every preset you want to control with the two FCB pedals.  Jack has it right, when you turn Performance MIDI on you have the option to change the CC number from 04 (the default) to whatever you'd like.  The chart also says CC's are used to turn effects on and off.  The chart at the bottom of page 54 lists these:
EXCITER             70
COMPRESSOR          71
DISTORTION          72
EQUALIZER           73
EXPANDER/NOISE GATE 74
REVERB              75
DELAY               76
PITCH TRANSPOSER    77
FLANGE/CHORUS       78
SPECIAL EFFECTS     79
BYPASS              84
So sending a CC 78 with a value of 0 would turn off the Flanger/Chorus. And a CC 78 with a value of 127 would turn it on.  The 0 and 127 are standard for off/on, but some devices reverse them, so swap them if you need to.
Another thing to try would be connecting it to a PC with a MIDI monitor like MIDI-OX.  The manual mentions it has a MIDI monitor built in, but I didn't read it closely.  Start up the monitor and move the pedals, and you should know which CC numbers to use. I have also to check on this

As far as SYSEX messages, there are two reasons to ignore them.  One, the manual is a bit cryptic about everything except switching OMNI mode.  The other reason is that the FCB can't send SYSEX messages.
Hope this helps.  THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Re: New firmware release : "UnO2" v.1.0 #announcement

ossandust
 

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 09:09 PM, Jack Fenton wrote:
I'm sure my interface is good
Yes, that's exactly why I have put such a "hard restriction" by disabling the purchase button - if the monitor desktop application results in a timeout so will UnO2ControlCenter, which would leave you with the need to buy another interface even though the current one is good for everything else. 
But as mentioned the web MIDI test is not a good reference : for instance the MidiSport interface which I have been using succesfully for many years somehow crashes whenever I leave a MIDI enabled web page - it starts working again after unplugging and reconnecting the USB cable.

Re: fcb1010 and ART SGX 2000

Scandemor
 

I also have a jurasic FX, a Korg A1, and took me a while to figure out all midi misterys. Finally used a midi monitor to check all incoming midi msg and could see some control and other data midi header. After , was easy to send the same mesage back to the procesor; it worked.....
greets