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IMPORTANT: Group Funding Renewal Request #announcement #donations


Roger Colwell
 

Brief History
When FCB1010 and FCB1010_UnO groups were successfully migrated from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io (GIO) in October 2019, in order to maintain/store all previous data (which Yahoo has since deleted), it became necessary to purchase a GIO Premium Yearly Plan in order to complete that migration.

Ongoing
We have so far enjoyed the GIO experience, with no annoying ads or delays/outages (as per Yahoo), so this Special Notice is a request for members to make a small contribution towards the upkeep of FCB1010 and FCB1010_UnO, as our subscription is due for renewal in October.

As the vast majority of original members (from Yahoo) have seemingly never needed to visit our Groups.io website then, if you are one of those members, you will not have seen the Donations tab in the main menu. I'd very much appreciate you take a look before October, please – you will be presented with a login page when you visit this URL: https://fcb1010.groups.io/g/main/viewdonations that looks like this:


As you will probably not have set a password to login successfully, you can choose to be emailed a link to login. You will arrive at this page:


From here you can click on the "Forum Running Costs" link and arrive at this page:



Please note that the "Raised So Far" amount may well be different than shown (well, at least that's my hope) :-)

To conclude this request, all I would like to add is that for those who are UnO group members, with your own Donations page, you may either visit the main group's page (as you are already members of the main group FCB1010) or you may start a similar path from: https://fcb1010.groups.io/g/uno/viewdonations

Thank you in anticipation of your continued support, on behalf of myself and the moderators ...

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Roger Colwell
FCB1010 and FCB1010_UnO Groups Owner/Moderator


Stephen Hannah
 

Hey, Roger!

Not sure if this is the correct place to ask/request, or if this possibility that has been investigated, but would migrating to google groups be a possibility? FWIW, it’s free and has superior search capabilities (as I’ve found trying to find and aggregate relevant info using the group.io search bar very difficult). Happy to help with data migration! 

Best, Stephen

On Jun 2, 2020, at 6:19 AM, Roger Colwell <roger.colwell@...> wrote:

Brief History
When FCB1010 and FCB1010_UnO groups were successfully migrated from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io (GIO) in October 2019, in order to maintain/store all previous data (which Yahoo has since deleted), it became necessary to purchase a GIO Premium Yearly Plan in order to complete that migration.

Ongoing
We have so far enjoyed the GIO experience, with no annoying ads or delays/outages (as per Yahoo), so this Special Notice is a request for members to make a small contribution towards the upkeep of FCB1010 and FCB1010_UnO, as our subscription is due for renewal in October.

As the vast majority of original members (from Yahoo) have seemingly never needed to visit our Groups.io website then, if you are one of those members, you will not have seen the Donations tab in the main menu. I'd very much appreciate you take a look before October, please – you will be presented with a login page when you visit this URL: https://fcb1010.groups.io/g/main/viewdonations that looks like this:

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As you will probably not have set a password to login successfully, you can choose to be emailed a link to login. You will arrive at this page:

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From here you can click on the "Forum Running Costs" link and arrive at this page:

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Please note that the "Raised So Far" amount may well be different than shown (well, at least that's my hope) :-)

To conclude this request, all I would like to add is that for those who are UnO group members, with your own Donations page, you may either visit the main group's page (as you are already members of the main group FCB1010) or you may start a similar path from: https://fcb1010.groups.io/g/uno/viewdonations

Thank you in anticipation of your continued support, on behalf of myself and the moderators ...

--
Roger Colwell
FCB1010 and FCB1010_UnO Groups Owner/Moderator


Roger Colwell
 

Thanks for your question, Stephen, I guess this is as good a place to ask as anywhere else!

I haven't extensively researched Google groups in the past, except I read lots of negative opinions and little to support it (when considering an exodus from Yahoo). But I did read LOTS of good things about GIO so joined an enormous number of other Yahoo groups in migrating here!

I wonder if anyone else is interested in moving to Google groups, just to avoid a subscription payment (that I think is excellent value-for-money, but YMMV)?
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Roger Colwell
FCB1010 Group Owner/Moderator


EJ SHELDON
 

Roger - Thank you for the effort you put in to continue this worthy cause.

Since I'm currently flush (like, the sun is out...) I've made my annual donations to both forums.
PLEASE do not move to GOOGLE! They've lost their way, and I no longer trust them!
The day you can't get 15 people to donate $10 each, this forum will no longer be necessary.
I don't see that happening anytime soon!

Keep on truckin'!


Roger Colwell
 

Many thanks, EJ.

I'm now locking this topic from further comment as it would otherwise be distributed to the whole membership, many of whom have unsubscribed due to receiving this Special Notice. For further discussion on any of the above points, please consider opening a new topic -- thank you!
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Roger Colwell
FCB1010 Group Owner/Moderator


Roger Colwell
 

Having realised that only the original message was sent to all members as a Special Notice, but replies are not, I've unlocked the topic again.

I'll take this opportunity to express my thanks to all those that have made a contribution as we are close to reaching the target for 2021.

I have received some private questions asking why we are paying for a Premium plan when we could revert to a free plan in October. My reasoning for this is that GIO provides a stable platform with no adverts, with support that is accessible, even direct communication is possible with the creator/developer, so it's worth supporting GIO with a contribution in the long-term, rather than revert to free membership which doesn't support GIO whatsoever! Having dealt previously with Yahoo's complete lack of communication facilities and knowing that Google also has no means to contact them for support about groups, it's a no-brainer to stay where we are and support GIO. YMMV?

The Premium plan provides lots of additional features on the admin side and, importantly, supports the inclusion and addition of subgroups (like our own FCB1010_UnO group) which a free account does not.
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Roger Colwell
FCB1010 Group Owner/Moderator


Derk Schmidt
 

I fully agree, Google only uses "free" to lure you into getting established.  Just ask all of the smaller companies who used to be able to use Google's location services for free.  I'm more than happy to pay a small subscription than whatever price touted to be free really turns into.


On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 6:19 PM Roger Colwell <roger.colwell@...> wrote:
Many thanks, EJ.

I'm now locking this topic from further comment as it would otherwise be distributed to the whole membership, many of whom have unsubscribed due to receiving this Special Notice. For further discussion on any of the above points, please consider opening a new topic -- thank you!
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Roger Colwell
FCB1010 Group Owner/Moderator


chrisw_63
 

As for the Google question, I did some research and found that Google Groups has not been updated since 2013.  Given Google's tendency to drop services that it no longer has any interest in, moving there would likely be temporary anyway.  Groups hasn't been listed as being on the chopping block yet, but if we had to move again even a year or two from now it'd be a lot of unneeded work.


Andy Williams
 

I signed up for membership today and am waiting for confirmation email. Will gladly contribute once I receive that and am able to log in.

Andy Williams

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On Tuesday, June 2, 2020, 08:26:46 AM CDT, Roger Colwell <roger.colwell@...> wrote:


Brief History
When FCB1010 and FCB1010_UnO groups were successfully migrated from Yahoo Groups to Groups.io (GIO) in October 2019, in order to maintain/store all previous data (which Yahoo has since deleted), it became necessary to purchase a GIO Premium Yearly Plan in order to complete that migration.

Ongoing
We have so far enjoyed the GIO experience, with no annoying ads or delays/outages (as per Yahoo), so this Special Notice is a request for members to make a small contribution towards the upkeep of FCB1010 and FCB1010_UnO, as our subscription is due for renewal in October.

As the vast majority of original members (from Yahoo) have seemingly never needed to visit our Groups.io website then, if you are one of those members, you will not have seen the Donations tab in the main menu. I'd very much appreciate you take a look before October, please – you will be presented with a login page when you visit this URL: https://fcb1010.groups.io/g/main/viewdonations that looks like this:


As you will probably not have set a password to login successfully, you can choose to be emailed a link to login. You will arrive at this page:


From here you can click on the "Forum Running Costs" link and arrive at this page:



Please note that the "Raised So Far" amount may well be different than shown (well, at least that's my hope) :-)

To conclude this request, all I would like to add is that for those who are UnO group members, with your own Donations page, you may either visit the main group's page (as you are already members of the main group FCB1010) or you may start a similar path from: https://fcb1010.groups.io/g/uno/viewdonations

Thank you in anticipation of your continued support, on behalf of myself and the moderators ...

--
Roger Colwell
FCB1010 and FCB1010_UnO Groups Owner/Moderator


Roger Colwell
 

Hi Andy, please excuse my confusion but you've been a member here since 29th April 2017 so why would you be thinking you "...signed up for membership today"??

Or do you mean that you were trying to visit the Donations page and were unable to login?

Note: as your Email Delivery setting is "Special Notices Only", so you wouldn't normally receive any general notifications of new topics or replies etc., I've changed the setting temporarily to "Individual Messages" as you might not otherwise receive my response ...
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Roger Colwell
FCB1010 Group Owner/Moderator