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Uno1 questions

Chris Astles
 

Hello all. I'm considering buying an Uno, mainly to take advantage of the 'momentary' function.

I'm curious to know, how are these features activated on a pedal?

Also, with the Uno 1.0.4, can the banks be deactivated to allow the UP and DOWN pedals to function as regular pedals?


locked Guide To The FCB1010

Lindsey Hill <lindseyhill@...>
 

That was harsh


locked Re: Guide To The FCB1010

Roger Colwell
 

As has been pointed out in the main group, this guide has a variety of shortcomings and omissions so is not recommended for viewing!

Kofi, if you continue to try to promote your own website, as you did in the past with prezhost.com (now defunct), then I will take steps to prevent you from posting.

This topic is now locked.
--
Roger Colwell
FCB1010_UnO Group Owner/Moderator


locked Guide To The FCB1010

Kofi & Mimi in Ghana <kofigbleze@...>
 

Here is an interesting article that provides a guide to the FCB1010. You will love to read it

https://baninii.com/2020/12/03/guide-to-the-fcb1010/

Kofi


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

ossandust
 

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:03 PM, David Grosz wrote:
Its a shame that people can not share there editor files because cut/paste from a pdf mostly does
Indeed, there's no reason to store a setup in PDF, just copy/paste the text directly from editor to forum. 
But anyway, for those who don't like copy/paste I released a ControlCenter update (v.1.2) which has an option to export a setup to text file, and import it from text file.   


Re: New to FCB1010 - anyone programmed already for Line6 Helix Native?

ok@...
 

Hej, thanks a lot to you both. Will work it out tomorrow ;-)


Re: New to FCB1010 - anyone programmed already for Line6 Helix Native?

David Grosz
 

Here is a pdf I made when I used the UnO chip and in my set up Bank 00 changed Scenes & Bank 09 was for the Looper
and everything in between changed but this might help you to see I have pedals active on I believe the first bank nut when
looking at this everything on the line can happen when you press a switch on that line or one thing its just how you program
the switch

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020, 5:56:32 AM PST, ok@... <ok@...> wrote:


Hi, I'm totally new to the FCB1010 with Uno and would be very thankful if someone could give me hints how to programm it for use with Line6 Helix Native in the Preset/Snapshot mode like on the Helix Floor. That means 1 bank up / 1 bank down, upper row preset 1-4, lower row snapshot 1-4, the remaining two for mode and tap. Oh, the pedals Exp1+2. 

No need to do it for me, I prefer to do it by myself, but would take every hint I could get ;-)
Thanks a lot. Sorry if this already exists somewhere but didnt find


Re: New to FCB1010 - anyone programmed already for Line6 Helix Native?

David Grosz
 

It is simply a matter of PC & CC messages as far as the FCB is concerned and the pedals must be programmed for every button
unless you have the UnO2 chip.

So with that said you can do the switches however you want so if you want PC messages on 1-5 and CC or snap shots on row
6-10 then thats how you do it.  I'm not totally familiar with how Line6 works (I'm a Fractal guy) but you may also program one switch
that sends PC 12 & CC 32, 127 together so it is not simply PC or CC for each switch.

When using the CC message it is followed by a value with 127 being on and 0 being off.  So you need to make a list for what you want
to happen when you press a switch and then program the switches accordingly.  That also means you need to know what the Line6 is
expecting for that function which is either a PC or a CC or both.  Once you know what you want to happen when you press a switch
then programming the switch becomes easier.

As for pedals, what happens is each switch has 5 PC, 2 CC, 1 Note and the 2 expression pedals assigned to it so when you press a switch it also changes the pedal so with the Axe Fx it can have 12 external controllers so I can have  a volume pedal, a wah pedal, a
whammy pedal, a flange speed and so forth so each of these could be assigned their own controller number. 
External 1 = CC16, val 0-127, External 2 is CC17, val 0-127 and so forth so when you select a switch it CAN or not change the pedals
also.  So the pedals need to be set to do whatever you want them to do when you press a given switch and bank.

With the UnO2 chip you could assign the pedals once upon power up to be just a volume and wah and they stay that way but the stock
chip and regular UnO chip you need to program the pedals for each switch

And lastly whatever the chip you have GET THE EDITOR that goes with the chip because its easier and faster but more importantly
it is easier to trouble shoot if something is not working as expected.  Remember midi is not rocket science it works if you set it correctly
and it will only send the message type you program it to send.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020, 5:56:32 AM PST, ok@... <ok@...> wrote:


Hi, I'm totally new to the FCB1010 with Uno and would be very thankful if someone could give me hints how to programm it for use with Line6 Helix Native in the Preset/Snapshot mode like on the Helix Floor. That means 1 bank up / 1 bank down, upper row preset 1-4, lower row snapshot 1-4, the remaining two for mode and tap. Oh, the pedals Exp1+2. 

No need to do it for me, I prefer to do it by myself, but would take every hint I could get ;-)
Thanks a lot. Sorry if this already exists somewhere but didnt find


New to FCB1010 - anyone programmed already for Line6 Helix Native?

ok@...
 

Hi, I'm totally new to the FCB1010 with Uno and would be very thankful if someone could give me hints how to programm it for use with Line6 Helix Native in the Preset/Snapshot mode like on the Helix Floor. That means 1 bank up / 1 bank down, upper row preset 1-4, lower row snapshot 1-4, the remaining two for mode and tap. Oh, the pedals Exp1+2. 

No need to do it for me, I prefer to do it by myself, but would take every hint I could get ;-)
Thanks a lot. Sorry if this already exists somewhere but didnt find


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

Abosaur
 

David,

Sorry for such alate reply, I've been quite obsessed with my rig the last few days.
It's really nice to share your knowledge, definetly helping!

Yeah, I've been carefull about that red bar, I wanted to make sure everything's right.
It helped a little, mostly to understand a little better how to organize things.

I'm going further, I'm currently thinking doing a second bank to control the G-Major delay.
At first I really wanted to make things straight, but right now I really want to enjoy the "FCB-Uno2 powered" strength! ^^


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

David Grosz
 

Glad to be able to help and I was in a spot where you are not long ago and finding help was an issue but I got thru
it and now I try and help others.

One thing I learned is once you get the red bar of death using the editor do not move past that line as it only gets worse
which makes it harder.  Its a shame that people can not share there editor files because cut/paste from a pdf mostly does
not work.

But glad your up and running its a very nice setup indeed and it would be nice if there was some kind of and upgrade for
the display because with all its new found power the led's are useless and you have to keep what your doing in your head

On Tuesday, October 27, 2020, 3:19:12 PM PDT, Abosaur <simon.lucciani@...> wrote:


Thank you David, that’s very kind !
I finally made my whole setup working fine tonight, I can assure you I’m more than happy after being so frustrated !
I’ve dedicated the second expression pedal to the G-Major « global in level » and now I’ve got a free volume pedal.

I’m thinking using the FCB 9/10 footswitches, maybe a reverb and delay on/off on the G-Major, I don’t know yet. Again, I can’t thank you enough for spending so much time helping me, I really appreciate it !


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

Abosaur
 

Thank you David, that’s very kind !
I finally made my whole setup working fine tonight, I can assure you I’m more than happy after being so frustrated !
I’ve dedicated the second expression pedal to the G-Major « global in level » and now I’ve got a free volume pedal.

I’m thinking using the FCB 9/10 footswitches, maybe a reverb and delay on/off on the G-Major, I don’t know yet. Again, I can’t thank you enough for spending so much time helping me, I really appreciate it !


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

David Grosz
 

Good news and going forward give it some thought as to what you want to do such as the
expression pedals which I would think would be used with the G Major to control some things
but the UnO2 chip makes the FCB1010 I think one of the best midi controllers around, well outside
the one I am designing but without a doubt the best value and features short of spending over
1000.00 dollars, but the cost of a new FCB1010 and the 50.00 for the UnO2 chip nothing comes
close and to me the features of having the virtual toe and heel switching is worth the 50.00 dollars
on its own.

So when you have some ideas on what you want to happen when you press a button hit me up and
I can help you with the editor

On Tuesday, October 27, 2020, 1:48:58 PM PDT, Abosaur <simon.lucciani@...> wrote:


David,
That definitely solved my problem, everything works properly now !
I really wasn’t aware that could be such an issue.

The Whammy needed to be plugged in the TW-EX Midi Thru, and I inserted a short delay between the TS9/amp switching commands, and I’m finally able to switch the amp on the dirt channel with the TS9 working, hooray!

I just need to go further programming my setup, thanks again David, you really helped me getting the programming stuff right with your pdf!


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

Abosaur
 

David,
That definitely solved my problem, everything works properly now !
I really wasn’t aware that could be such an issue.

The Whammy needed to be plugged in the TW-EX Midi Thru, and I inserted a short delay between the TS9/amp switching commands, and I’m finally able to switch the amp on the dirt channel with the TS9 working, hooray!

I just need to go further programming my setup, thanks again David, you really helped me getting the programming stuff right with your pdf!


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

David Grosz
 

So here is the deal you need to write down what you want to happen when you press a button.
So I have included a pic of a complex preset which in reality is not the way I would do this but I
made this preset more complicated than it really should be as a test.  So in your case you have
a DESS Audio TW-EX (MIDI Looper/Switcher) doing your amp channel switching and your effects
loop switching and your Whammy should be in a loop switching but the midi is separate thing
altogether. 

So here is your setup:

-DESS Audio TW-EX (MIDI Looper/Switcher)            This needs its own midi channel you made it 2

Digitech Whammy                                                       This needs its own midi channel and you made it 3

TC Electronic G-Major 1                                              this needs its own midi channel and you made it 4

-Mesa Rectifier Recording Preamp                             This is switched using CC messages 10 and 11
                                                                                    via midi channel 2    ( they are connected to the TW-EX)

Stompboxes:                                                                Each stomp box is connected to a specific loop and has
                                                                                     its own CC on/off                                                

Whammy 4,
TS9,                                  CC 1
Phase 45,                         CC 2
Phase 90 Script,               CC 3
Phase 90 Block,               CC 4
Phase 100,                       CC 5
Boss CE5,                        CC 6
Carbon Copy                    CC 7
Whammy 4                                                            The Whammy needs to have its own loop or you control it directly from the pedal
                                                                              itself but that is just for the guitar signal the midi needs its own channel
Mesa Clean                    CC 10
Meas Dirt                        CC 11

So now you hook up midi cables so FCB out to midi in on G Major
Then midi thru of G Major to midi in of the TW-EX
Then the TW-EX midi thru or out to the midi in of the Whammy

The Whammy 4 needs to be last in the chain because it does not have a midi out jack

So here is where it gets sketchy you need midi thru which it takes any midi messages on the midi in
and passes it straight to the midi thru jack where as some units do not send incoming midi data to the
midi out unless its mapped within the unit which you do not want to do if not necessary

Its possible you may need something like the Midi Solutions Quadra Thru box where it takes the input
from the FCB and sends it out to up to 4 devices so its 1 cable from that box to each device but try
what I suggested above but for now get the TW-EX working first and go from there




On Tuesday, October 27, 2020, 11:53:34 AM PDT, David Grosz via groups.io <davidgrosz2205@...> wrote:


Well first thing you do not need any midi in to the FCB only midi out and then in out to other devices so try out of FCB to your loop switcher and make sure switcher channel is set correctly on both the FCB and the switcher.  It is something simple and if the FCB has the correct setting the device wants it's going to work


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:19 AM, Abosaur
<simon.lucciani@...> wrote:
Allright folks,

Dumb alert...
What I suspect to have happened is a MIDI feedback (kinda). Everything worked properly as soon as I unplugged the FCB1010's MIDI in.
I just have to understand why I can't simultaneously switch my amp and the TS9, as it turn on and off the CCs sort of randomly, sometimes the TS9, sometimes the amp switching, and fix the Exp. Pedal 1 Whammy remote controling, which isn't working too (I suspect a bad SWEEPS location on my programmation).

I can't thank you enough, especially David for helping me.
This is how I've programmed my setup, if you want to take a look.


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

David Grosz
 

Well first thing you do not need any midi in to the FCB only midi out and then in out to other devices so try out of FCB to your loop switcher and make sure switcher channel is set correctly on both the FCB and the switcher.  It is something simple and if the FCB has the correct setting the device wants it's going to work


On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:19 AM, Abosaur
<simon.lucciani@...> wrote:
Allright folks,

Dumb alert...
What I suspect to have happened is a MIDI feedback (kinda). Everything worked properly as soon as I unplugged the FCB1010's MIDI in.
I just have to understand why I can't simultaneously switch my amp and the TS9, as it turn on and off the CCs sort of randomly, sometimes the TS9, sometimes the amp switching, and fix the Exp. Pedal 1 Whammy remote controling, which isn't working too (I suspect a bad SWEEPS location on my programmation).

I can't thank you enough, especially David for helping me.
This is how I've programmed my setup, if you want to take a look.


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

Abosaur
 

Allright folks,

Dumb alert...
What I suspect to have happened is a MIDI feedback (kinda). Everything worked properly as soon as I unplugged the FCB1010's MIDI in.
I just have to understand why I can't simultaneously switch my amp and the TS9, as it turn on and off the CCs sort of randomly, sometimes the TS9, sometimes the amp switching, and fix the Exp. Pedal 1 Whammy remote controling, which isn't working too (I suspect a bad SWEEPS location on my programmation).

I can't thank you enough, especially David for helping me.
This is how I've programmed my setup, if you want to take a look.


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

Abosaur
 
Edited

Hi David,

Thank you very much again for helping me.
There must be something wrong, somewhere in my setup. Absolutely nothing works, and I've got no more sound at all coming out from the TW-EX unit.
I just don't get anything... I feel pretty frustrated right now.
I'm just looking for the (it seems not) simpliest rig:
-Amp channel switching linked to the TS9 loop
-On/Off on all other loops
Nothing more.
I've reached to the TW-EX manufacturer and waiting for his feedback, there's maybe something I'm not aware to do.

This is the last rig I've made, should give you some detailled hints about what I'm looking for


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

David Grosz
 

Copy/paste this into editor and wow would it not be easier to help if we could simply share a file instead of this cut and paste nonsense

On Monday, October 26, 2020, 3:49:38 PM PDT, David Grosz via groups.io <davidgrosz2205@...> wrote:


Ok that makes more sense and I will make a better example for you when I get back home and your loop switcher having relays helps alot


On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM, Abosaur
<simon.lucciani@...> wrote:
Hi David,

Thank you very much for your help!

The TW-EX has 8 loops and 2 Aux outs which are described being able to switch amp channel via "stereo" jacks.

To be more specific, I'm looking for a setup where I could turn On/Off each effect loops, and on only one (TS9) changing my amp channel when activating and deactivating the loop.
If usefull, the TW-EX MIDI implementation below:
CC 00: 0, 1-127 = Loop 1
CC 01: 0, 1-127 = Loop 2
CC 02: 0, 1-127 = Loop 3
CC 03: 0, 1-127 = Loop4
CC 04: 0, 1-127 = Loop 5
CC 05: 0, 1-127 = Loop 6
CC 06: 0, 1-127 = Loop 7
CC 07: 0, 1-127 = Loop 8
CC 08: 0, 1-127 = Out A/B
CC 09: 0, 1-127 = Out A+B
CC 10: 0, 1-127 = Aux A
CC 11: 0, 1-127 = Aux B

I'm not sure if the Rectifier Clean and Dirt Presets are still needed as I would like only one "global" simple setup.
I've also tried what was suggested by Ossandust, and still failed at doing anything...

Wasn't really aware it would be such a journey! ^^


Re: Help neede programming Uno2 chip with FCB1010

David Grosz
 

Ok that makes more sense and I will make a better example for you when I get back home and your loop switcher having relays helps alot


On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 2:46 PM, Abosaur
<simon.lucciani@...> wrote:
Hi David,

Thank you very much for your help!

The TW-EX has 8 loops and 2 Aux outs which are described being able to switch amp channel via "stereo" jacks.

To be more specific, I'm looking for a setup where I could turn On/Off each effect loops, and on only one (TS9) changing my amp channel when activating and deactivating the loop.
If usefull, the TW-EX MIDI implementation below:
CC 00: 0, 1-127 = Loop 1
CC 01: 0, 1-127 = Loop 2
CC 02: 0, 1-127 = Loop 3
CC 03: 0, 1-127 = Loop4
CC 04: 0, 1-127 = Loop 5
CC 05: 0, 1-127 = Loop 6
CC 06: 0, 1-127 = Loop 7
CC 07: 0, 1-127 = Loop 8
CC 08: 0, 1-127 = Out A/B
CC 09: 0, 1-127 = Out A+B
CC 10: 0, 1-127 = Aux A
CC 11: 0, 1-127 = Aux B

I'm not sure if the Rectifier Clean and Dirt Presets are still needed as I would like only one "global" simple setup.
I've also tried what was suggested by Ossandust, and still failed at doing anything...

Wasn't really aware it would be such a journey! ^^

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