Feature REQ, was: The "Up" button


Zsazsi
 

As a guitarist I am fond of the features UnO offers right now, only a few
suggestions left ;) ...

Well, I can imagine some very different configuration, like dedicating a
bank for stomps only or momentary switches that send different notes or the
last bank acting as direct select, etc, etc, etc...
I feel however that these features require quite a quantum leap from the
original direction and more sophistication means even more cryptic menu
structure for the user. Don't get me wrong, they are interesting ideas, I
welcome any new feature as it might be handy sometime for me as well, but
Xavier should decide...

One suggestion for the novice users: it would be nice to include demo
application examples to the rom image - similarly the way Behringer did it.
I believe that many user would suffer far less frustration if some simple
plug and play solution could be accesible right under their toe tip.

The other suggestion is useful mostly for the gigging musician. The stompbox
mode is very nice for guitarists like me. Sometimes however I have to tune
my guitar so I have programmed patch 5 for silent tuning in every bank that
I don't have squat down. The main problem is that I pressed that button many
times accidentally. So, to make it short, it would be nice to have a global
patch parameter that comes up if I press a button for 2 secs. This could be
the "Up" button - but since I try to avoid collision with other suggestion -
I suggest an on/off bit per patch if memory space permit. The fcb would send
that globally set PCs, CCs, Notes and the LEDs would display "INA" as the
fcb is in an inactive mode, a normal patc press would make the device active
again. I believe that keyboardists could use this feature as a system reset,
vocalists as talkback and even band leaders as global PA mute :).

Let me know what You think.

Zsazsi


ossandust
 

Hey Zsazsi,

as soon as you would have more storage capacity available, a lot of
the current restrictions disappear, and many of your suggestions would
be readily available : bank for stompboxes only, bank for notes only,
etc etc
In any case this would mean a complete redesign, starting from
scratch, and also, I would definitely need to give up programming this
thing using footswitches and a poor 2-digit LCD. I'm afraid using a PC
is the only way to go (I don't think you would like to pay an extra
300$ to have a nice little integrated touch screen for doing setup?...)

Application examples are a little tricky for something to be used in
many very different applications - I think the forum members are doing
a great job by posting example sysex files - once you can live with
the restriction of setup-using-PC-only these sample sysex files should
do the trick...

Possibility to assign a (globally programmable) delay to any of the
switches (so that it only sends its messages after for instance 2
seconds), is that a possible solution to your tuner problem?
I already thought of providing the possibility to use a programmable
delay for the release action too (instead of using the actual pedal
release) - might be handy in some situations (NoteOn?)





--- In fcb1010_uno@..., "Zsazsi" <m-zsolt@...> wrote:

As a guitarist I am fond of the features UnO offers right now, only
a few
suggestions left ;) ...

Well, I can imagine some very different configuration, like dedicating a
bank for stomps only or momentary switches that send different notes
or the
last bank acting as direct select, etc, etc, etc...
I feel however that these features require quite a quantum leap from the
original direction and more sophistication means even more cryptic menu
structure for the user. Don't get me wrong, they are interesting
ideas, I
welcome any new feature as it might be handy sometime for me as
well, but
Xavier should decide...

One suggestion for the novice users: it would be nice to include demo
application examples to the rom image - similarly the way Behringer
did it.
I believe that many user would suffer far less frustration if some
simple
plug and play solution could be accesible right under their toe tip.

The other suggestion is useful mostly for the gigging musician. The
stompbox
mode is very nice for guitarists like me. Sometimes however I have
to tune
my guitar so I have programmed patch 5 for silent tuning in every
bank that
I don't have squat down. The main problem is that I pressed that
button many
times accidentally. So, to make it short, it would be nice to have a
global
patch parameter that comes up if I press a button for 2 secs. This
could be
the "Up" button - but since I try to avoid collision with other
suggestion -
I suggest an on/off bit per patch if memory space permit. The fcb
would send
that globally set PCs, CCs, Notes and the LEDs would display "INA"
as the
fcb is in an inactive mode, a normal patc press would make the
device active
again. I believe that keyboardists could use this feature as a
system reset,
vocalists as talkback and even band leaders as global PA mute :).

Let me know what You think.

Zsazsi


Zsazsi
 

Hello OssanDust!

About different configurations: Me and I believe every UnO user
curious about the borders how far the possibilities of the fcb can
be stretched. I just would like You to reveal what are You cooking
behind the curtain :)

About examples: The stompbox mode is very different from the
original behaviour. Behringer did the job for their gear way back, I
thoght we could include some generic example setup for stompbox. The
PODs are already covered :) and it seems that todays equipment ship
with extensive learning capabilities. So 1 channel incremental PCs
in every bank as regular patches and CCs and Notes on stomps would
give instant satisfaction many times.

About tuning: Your idea could be a solution as long as I have to
hold that pedal for 2 secs and a single tap doesn't initiate it.
What do You exactly mean by "to any of the switches"? In every
Bank? Well, it is a shame I know, but I was lying about "every".
My main rig is a POD2 that has only 32 PC locations, so 8 banks with
4 PC patches do the job. Bank 9 is for some kind of deep editing
where Button 5 is dedicated to something different. I also own a
small guitar synth rack that I use ocassionaly and button 5 does
different things in different banks from bank 10 to 18. I also feel
that dedicating a pedal for tuner only is a little bit wasteful - I
would rather use that pedal for some more frequent application and
step on it for 2 seconds to to get to the tuner.

Regards

Zsazsi

-----Original Message-----

as soon as you would have more storage capacity available, a lot of
the current restrictions disappear, and many of your suggestions
would
be readily available : bank for stompboxes only, bank for notes
only,
etc etc
In any case this would mean a complete redesign, starting from
scratch, and also, I would definitely need to give up programming
this
thing using footswitches and a poor 2-digit LCD. I'm afraid using
a PC
is the only way to go (I don't think you would like to pay an extra
300$ to have a nice little integrated touch screen for doing
setup?...)

Application examples are a little tricky for something to be used
in
many very different applications - I think the forum members are
doing
a great job by posting example sysex files - once you can live with
the restriction of setup-using-PC-only these sample sysex files
should
do the trick...

Possibility to assign a (globally programmable) delay to any of the
switches (so that it only sends its messages after for instance 2
seconds), is that a possible solution to your tuner problem?
I already thought of providing the possibility to use a
programmable
delay for the release action too (instead of using the actual pedal
release) - might be handy in some situations (NoteOn?)


Mike
 

Actually...

I think UnO has stretched the FCB1010 to it's limit. I think it's
at the pinnacle of what a general-purpose foot controller can do for
150 bucks.

I do not expect any more from this, my least expensive piece of
gear, and its free UnO upgrade.

mike r

--- In fcb1010_uno@..., "zsazsi98" <m-zsolt@...> wrote:

Hello OssanDust!

About different configurations: Me and I believe every UnO user
curious about the borders how far the possibilities of the fcb can
be stretched. I just would like You to reveal what are You cooking
behind the curtain :)


David Frascone
 

Do we have enough memory for more patches? My Vamp has 125 patches, and the FCB can only get to 100 of them . . . any chance on stretching that?

-Dave


zsazsi98 wrote:

Hello OssanDust!

About different configurations: Me and I believe every UnO user curious about the borders how far the possibilities of the fcb can be stretched. I just would like You to reveal what are You cooking behind the curtain :)

About examples: The stompbox mode is very different from the original behaviour. Behringer did the job for their gear way back, I thoght we could include some generic example setup for stompbox. The PODs are already covered :) and it seems that todays equipment ship with extensive learning capabilities. So 1 channel incremental PCs in every bank as regular patches and CCs and Notes on stomps would give instant satisfaction many times.

About tuning: Your idea could be a solution as long as I have to hold that pedal for 2 secs and a single tap doesn't initiate it. What do You exactly mean by "to any of the switches"? In every Bank? Well, it is a shame I know, but I was lying about "every". My main rig is a POD2 that has only 32 PC locations, so 8 banks with 4 PC patches do the job. Bank 9 is for some kind of deep editing where Button 5 is dedicated to something different. I also own a small guitar synth rack that I use ocassionaly and button 5 does different things in different banks from bank 10 to 18. I also feel that dedicating a pedal for tuner only is a little bit wasteful - I would rather use that pedal for some more frequent application and step on it for 2 seconds to to get to the tuner.

Regards

Zsazsi




-----Original Message-----

as soon as you would have more storage capacity available, a lot of
the current restrictions disappear, and many of your suggestions
would

be readily available : bank for stompboxes only, bank for notes
only,

etc etc
In any case this would mean a complete redesign, starting from
scratch, and also, I would definitely need to give up programming
this

thing using footswitches and a poor 2-digit LCD. I'm afraid using
a PC

is the only way to go (I don't think you would like to pay an extra
300$ to have a nice little integrated touch screen for doing
setup?...)

Application examples are a little tricky for something to be used
in

many very different applications - I think the forum members are
doing

a great job by posting example sysex files - once you can live with
the restriction of setup-using-PC-only these sample sysex files
should

do the trick...

Possibility to assign a (globally programmable) delay to any of the
switches (so that it only sends its messages after for instance 2
seconds), is that a possible solution to your tuner problem?
I already thought of providing the possibility to use a
programmable

delay for the release action too (instead of using the actual pedal
release) - might be handy in some situations (NoteOn?)






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David Frascone

I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent.


ossandust
 

Hey Zsazsi,

there's no big secrets behind my curtain you know - I'm just
experimenting a little in my sparse free time, maybe by the time I
really have something, it's no longer usefull, or it's too expensive
to produce, that's why I don't want to bother this forum too much with
those vague or premature ideas. The thing is, this FCB1010 is so cheap
for what it contains, that I might just go for an
FCB1010-hardware-addon which just traps the switch
presses/releases/expressionPedal movements, and shifts the MIDI
message generation logic outside of the fcb, where there would be
- more setup memory capacity
- more room for functional extensions
- an easier way to make the functionality customizable (so that in the
end you could get whatever personal crazy idea in there... ;-)

--- In fcb1010_uno@..., "zsazsi98" <m-zsolt@...> wrote:

About different configurations: Me and I believe every UnO user
curious about the borders how far the possibilities of the fcb can
be stretched. I just would like You to reveal what are You cooking
behind the curtain :)