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Fcb UNO 1.0.2f works in guitar rig4 but not in amplitube5
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Ok great thanks EJ. I appreciate that. Earlier at the end of messing with the pedal I saw that sysex enabled you can flash the pedal on the fly and see your changes I tried it a couple times and felt I wasted alot of time turning it off and on holding pedals to flash. Also I meant on the pic programmer was to put the 1.0.4 on the uno chip but now I see there is no need at all. I appreciate you letting me back with you once I get the new software and some time. I am so thankful you all are on here to help with these pedals. On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 5:45 PM EJ SHELDON <bluesrock13@...> wrote: You're trying too hard to think outside of the box! |
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EJ SHELDON
You're trying too hard to think outside of the box!
An eeprom flasher is what you'd use with a blank chip to install the UNO FW. It is NOT what you use to switch from one sysex to another. You do that from within the editor. Likewise, to install the sysex I spoke of you just open it in the editor, "connect" with the editor, and hit the download button. Or maybe it's called upload. The icon with the down arrow. Since the editor has a MIDI monitor that displays in human readable language (decimal vs hex) and an upload function to put the actual contents of the FCB into the editor you'll be able to tell right away if everything is working as required and make changes without needing to guess what's happening in your sims/synth. By default, in UNO mode each FCB Bank has 5 "Stomp" switches that send CCs and 5 Preset switches that send PCs. Each Preset can send up to 12 messages, 10 on separate channels, plus the 2 exp pedals. By setting your amp sims and synth to receive on separate channels you can control both. There are limitations depending on how complex you want to get, so once you're up and running with ControlCenter let me know what exactly you want to do and I'll advise you as to the mods you'll need to make to my sysex. |
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Oh It was an absolute nightmare last night. I almost had tears in my eyes and just had to go to bed. It kept changing things I hadn't told it too and worked one flash and then not the next because it would change something without my knowing. Today I was able to get it to not corrupt when working and was able to make both of those and get it all to work. But I agree I shouldn't have even tried with this software. I just am hard headed from all the years of computer hacking and thought I could get something going. Once I get the control center I will get back with you and see if I can get something going with the newer files. I will do a reset once I get it installed and get back to you . For now I need a break at least it is working and on both synths with one sysex. I would like to do the same if possible again like this once I get the new software. To just have one bank for amplitube or maybe a combination of half and half on the banks for both synths like I have now going here. . It would be a shame to have to flash to use one or the other synth .But I can, it's not a problem. just neat how i have it now where it controls both. I have a eeprom flasher and could put a newer firmware on the chip so I don't have to power up with down held to flash every time if I end up using the new files like you mention. On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 3:04 PM EJ SHELDON <bluesrock13@...> wrote: After only having been using GR, AT and the FCB with your exact chip for a mere 12 years, there's no reason for you to believe that I might possibly know what I'm talking about, but I'll give it one last shot. |
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EJ SHELDON
After only having been using GR, AT and the FCB with your exact chip for a mere 12 years, there's no reason for you to believe that I might possibly know what I'm talking about, but I'll give it one last shot.
Perform a factory reset by booting the FCB while holding 1 + 6. This will remove the corruption that's causing your FCB to not work properly. Buy the UNO_ControlCenter Editor. Your reason for not buying it does not make any sense, as it is the result of the corruption mentioned above. Once you've purchased the UNO_ControlCenter Editor (written AND SUPPORTED by the creator of the UNO Chip), I will provide you with a sysex that will allow you to control either GR or AT, and instructions on how to use the other SW without having to load the sysex specific to that SW. The reason being that the default ON/OFF messages for GR and AT are different. GR uses the standard 127=ON and AT uses the non-standard 127=OFF. Either SW can be setup to work with whichever sysex you choose to use (GR or AT specific). I understand the urge to hack at it until it works, but everything you've said so far indicates that you're banging your head on the wall while you COULD be playing yer guitar! |
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I just wanted to give it a shot since I barely use it. I am a drummer and mainly use one preset for bass and play online with friends. I just don't see how it could corrupt the pedal being your flashing the memory fully each time.
It seems if I get a good flash and it is not corrupt as I have it now it works fine I just wanted to get the stomp pedal to turn things on and off in amplitube and I should be finished with the programming part. its working now on both synths correctly other than the darn amplitube making you have to relearn anything on the pedals. I will get it sometime I just was giving it a go since I had time. If you have an idea what to switch on or off on those stomp pedals I would appreciate it . My old guitar rig works great for anyone with an uno though if they would like to try it. and this one seems to do both ok other than stomps . your so right on this editor though it has a mind of its own sometimes. I really appreciate you and this forum for all your help so far. I cant thank you enough. I almost purchased the control center this morning but after reading the manual real well after messing all night with this and I saw he had removed the cc2 and that is the only way I am able to make the presets switch on my last bank for amplitube using kind of a crazy reverse cc on cc2 if I turn it off I don't get a change on the pedals at all. |
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EJ SHELDON
PLEASE re-read my previous post.
TO REPEAT - the FREE editors DO NOT WORK PROPERLY WITH YOUR UNO VERSION! What more, after using one of those editors you will most ALWAYS need to do a FACTORY RESET to fix the corruption you've caused! You need to spend the $25 for the UNO_ControlCenter Editor if you ever want to get your FCB/UNO v1.0.2f working for you! |
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This one works right other than stomps now. somehow expression pedals were messed up. I think this editor may be all my problem. Stomps still will only turn pedals on not off. but bottom row will turn them on and off after learn. Its a shame there is no global wah or master volume in amplitube., what a pain .
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Ok It almost beat me last night trying to get this to all work. I kept getting things in the list changed for no reason such as note changing number and weird anomalies just change for now reason. sometimes guitar rig would always want to bounce to first preset when you pushed any other pedal in the 95 presets through the banks somehow I stopped it today unsure how.. also today editor is not acting up as bad corrupting things. Also when flashing i sometimes have to hit 7 pedal and hit flash a few times to get it to go blank and flash correctly. is this because of 1.0.2.f being to new for fcb editor I'm using version 2.99-2 ?.
I finally have amplitube 5 changing presets on pedals 1 and 2 and 3,4,5,can turn things on and off. expression pedals work I'm using bank 19 for it so I can use the others for guitar rig . Then in guitar rig I have it where you can change banks and go through 1-95 presets and stomp 1 and 2 or 6 and 7 change presets up and down. changing by bottom row preset 1 freaks out and flashes to end of list back to 1 cant figure it out yet. I am having problem with stomp pedals being able to turn something on in amplitube but not turn it off. Could you look at my file and see why it would do that for me ? I almost have it the way I want I just would like the top row stomp pedals to switch on and off . Also this is my original guitar rig that works pretty well. |
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ossandust
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 01:11 AM, Trashcanhead wrote:
What is the firmware upgrade button on control center?I didn't realize ControlCenter had an "upgrade firmware" option. It's greyed out because you can't upgrade the FCB1010 firmware from software, you need to replace the (one-time programmable) firmware chip. As the tooltip says, this menu option was for upgrading the FCB-LG firmware. The FCB-LG upgrade kit was a hardware add-on which did have a rewritable firmware chip. It has been replaced by the TinyBox (https://www.tinybox.rocks/) |
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EJ SHELDON
No need to upgrade your FW if you've read the Release Notes and don't know why it would be important.
1.0.2f was a solid version which I used right up until I switched to UNO2. NOTE that I did NOT say UPGRADED. UNO2 is a totally different product. IDK what the button does - I still use v1.0.7 to troubleshoot and create UNO configurations for people. |
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I picked the bin file for 104 will the software be able to flash it or do I need to use a eeprom programmer to flash the chip to newest firmware ?
What is the firmware upgrade button on control center?. Does it load the bin for flashing ? I read the revisions between versions is it even very important to upgrade the firmware from what I have?. |
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EJ SHELDON
The FREE editors work up to 1.0.2. 1.0.2f and up requires ControlCenter, which is SOOO much better and well worth the $25.
You can't just change the file extension and have it work. You probably want to do a factory reset on the FCB after what you did - boot while holding 1 + 6 . The main difference between the basic MIDI implementations of GR and AT is that while GR uses the standard CC Value 127 = ON/0=OFF, AT uses the opposite by default. This can be reversed on the CONTROL page by reversing the MIN/MAX settings. An irritating extra step. AT5 also screwed the pooch by removing the Pedalboard Slot Bypass settings from Globals and you now need to set them separately for EVERY AT Preset! Also, FX Loop and Rack FX Bypass have to be set from the CONTROL pages vs using LEARN on the FX themselves. Most annoying. AT's sounds get better while their MIDI implementation gets worse. Go figure! |
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I wanted to know if I need to use the control center app instead of the fcb1010 editor. I renamed the at4from a lgp to the syx file and it went into the fcb and I can see it in the editor but not able to get anything but cc0 when I try to learn with the amplitube 5 global learn. Also If I purchase the app I see there is a firmware upgrade button will I be able to upgrade to the 1.0.4 if I purchase app also.
I have both gr and amp5 as synth and have a midi track controlling them. Guitar rig with my sysex works both stomps pedals and all but amplitube I dont see any midi registering from the pedals Is this from using the wrong editor? Thanks Dave |
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