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EJ SHELDON
 

As Roger suggested, this is the place to post.


IF you are going to use the UNO (not UNO2) chip, then ControlCenter is a great COMPANION purchase WHEN you buy and install the UNO CHIP.

BUT - if you want to control multiple different applications - DAW, different amp sims - you PROBABLY need to install the UNO2 chip that you already have.
In that case, buying ControlCenter is a complete waste of money, as the ControlCenter for UNO is not compatible with UNO2 and vice versa.

If the ControlCenter version that you're trying to register IS the UNO2 version, it won't help you much until you install the UNO2 Chip.

In a previous post I advised you to write down your needs in detail. If you won't be specific, I can be of no further help.
Do what you like, and Good Luck!
Quayfee
 

It is well worth it, if you are willing to put a little time into learning how to code it.

I’ve a programmer by trade and it took me maybe 2 hours to get into it, but I’m not comfortable with the basics and now looking to strat to push the envelope a bit.

But do put the tiem in to get your head around it as the flexibility it provides is nothing short fo spectacular massively iproveing the FCB’s flexibility.

Oveall my impression if the UNO2 is, “If you’re a gek, It’s exciting to see what it can do, if not it’s a little daunting’, but there is no reason any non-geekshouldn’t be able toget into it, at least for creating relatively standard presets.

 

From: uno@fcb1010.groups.io <uno@fcb1010.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Grosz via groups.io
Sent: 28 December 2022 23:00
To: uno@fcb1010.groups.io
Subject: Re: [fcb1010_uno] Uno 2 chip

 

If your having trouble with the stock chip are you using the free editor?  The UnO2 chip is a completely different allowing the FCB to do pretty much anything and the added functionality with the expression pedals alone is why I upgraded to it.  My suggestion is watch videos on YouTube detailing programming stock chip before you swap in the new chip because it will be even more frustrating if your not understanding how to program now.  What are you trying to do now giving you trouble which is a better question to help



On Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 2:40 PM, Augie <csillery@...> wrote:

So I barely can figure out how to program the stock chip. I bought the Uno2 chip in the spring but still haven't installed it. Since I am having so much trouble with the stock chip, is it worthwhile to put the new chip in?

EJ SHELDON
 

On Wed, Dec 28, 2022 at 05:56 PM, SlimDude wrote:
I believe the OP said UNO2, an entirely different story when it comes to programming.
I pointed that out in the last paragraph before I stated that there were other differences in the three chips (stock, UNO and UNO2), but that the explanations given were the main considerations in choosing between the chips. Or have I misunderstood your post?
SlimDude
 

I believe the OP said UNO2, an entirely different story when it comes to programming.

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On Dec 28, 2022, at 7:23 PM, EJ SHELDON <bluesrock13@...> wrote:

I can explain all of that, and I may even still have example presets somewhere, but below are some things you should consider.

Where MIDI control is concerned, the difference between AT and GR (and most other amp sims) is that for GLOBAL FX Bypass AT uses CC Value 127 = OFF; CC Value 0 = ON. Most other amp sims use the opposite. Both (and most others) can be reversed on a PER PRESET basis.

IOW - you can use a single Bank or, in the case of UNO, a single configuration, for both, but one would be using the easier GLOBAL settings and the other would have to be configured PER PRESET.

With the stock chip it doesn't much matter because the BYPASS switch LEDs behave the same way as any other Preset select switches because they ARE Preset select switches.You step on the FS the LED turns ON and it sends Value1. Step on it again and the LED remains on while it sends Value 2. Step on another switch and the LED for the first switch goes out AND IT RESETS TO SEND VALUE 1 AGAIN ON NEXT PRESS. It'll work, but not really optimal when using it for multiple FX.

That's an important distinction, as it is a main consideration for getting the UNO chip. With UNO, one row of switches sends CC (BYPASS) and the other sends PC (program/preset change). When you press a STOMP (CC/BYPASS) switch the LED turns ON and it sends Value 1. Press again and it sends Value 2 and the LED goes OFF. Also, while FS1 is ON you can press FS2 and FS will REMAIN ON and remember what message it sent last. ESSENTIAL for using multiple FX.

While both chips can be programmed manually, that is a ROYAL PITA! 
Fortunately, both chips can be programmed using a graphical UI.
The stock chip has at least two FREE editors.
UNO (above v 1.0.2) requires a PAID editor called UNO_ControlCenter (author is also the creator of the UNO chip).
It's only around $25 and well worth the expense, as it is far superior to either of the two FREE editors.
It can also be used with the stock chip as well as UNO.

You, however, did NOT purchase the UNO chip, you purchased the UNO2 chip. While MUCH more powerful/flexible than the UNO chip (same creator) - any FS in any Bank can do anything you want it to do - it is programmed with an actual code editor using actual code, NOT a graphical UI. How are your coding skills?

There's lots of other differences, but these are your main considerations.

I'll post this same reply in the UNO thread as it relates to both of your questions.

EJ SHELDON
 

I can explain all of that, and I may even still have example presets somewhere, but below are some things you should consider.

Where MIDI control is concerned, the difference between AT and GR (and most other amp sims) is that for GLOBAL FX Bypass AT uses CC Value 127 = OFF; CC Value 0 = ON. Most other amp sims use the opposite. Both (and most others) can be reversed on a PER PRESET basis.

IOW - you can use a single Bank or, in the case of UNO, a single configuration, for both, but one would be using the easier GLOBAL settings and the other would have to be configured PER PRESET.

With the stock chip it doesn't much matter because the BYPASS switch LEDs behave the same way as any other Preset select switches because they ARE Preset select switches.You step on the FS the LED turns ON and it sends Value1. Step on it again and the LED remains on while it sends Value 2. Step on another switch and the LED for the first switch goes out AND IT RESETS TO SEND VALUE 1 AGAIN ON NEXT PRESS. It'll work, but not really optimal when using it for multiple FX.

That's an important distinction, as it is a main consideration for getting the UNO chip. With UNO, one row of switches sends CC (BYPASS) and the other sends PC (program/preset change). When you press a STOMP (CC/BYPASS) switch the LED turns ON and it sends Value 1. Press again and it sends Value 2 and the LED goes OFF. Also, while FS1 is ON you can press FS2 and FS will REMAIN ON and remember what message it sent last. ESSENTIAL for using multiple FX.

While both chips can be programmed manually, that is a ROYAL PITA! 
Fortunately, both chips can be programmed using a graphical UI.
The stock chip has at least two FREE editors.
UNO (above v 1.0.2) requires a PAID editor called UNO_ControlCenter (author is also the creator of the UNO chip).
It's only around $25 and well worth the expense, as it is far superior to either of the two FREE editors.
It can also be used with the stock chip as well as UNO.

You, however, did NOT purchase the UNO chip, you purchased the UNO2 chip. While MUCH more powerful/flexible than the UNO chip (same creator) - any FS in any Bank can do anything you want it to do - it is programmed with an actual code editor using actual code, NOT a graphical UI. How are your coding skills?

There's lots of other differences, but these are your main considerations.

I'll post this same reply in the UNO thread as it relates to both of your questions.
David Grosz
 

If your having trouble with the stock chip are you using the free editor?  The UnO2 chip is a completely different allowing the FCB to do pretty much anything and the added functionality with the expression pedals alone is why I upgraded to it.  My suggestion is watch videos on YouTube detailing programming stock chip before you swap in the new chip because it will be even more frustrating if your not understanding how to program now.  What are you trying to do now giving you trouble which is a better question to help




On Wednesday, December 28, 2022, 2:40 PM, Augie <csillery@...> wrote:

So I barely can figure out how to program the stock chip. I bought the Uno2 chip in the spring but still haven't installed it. Since I am having so much trouble with the stock chip, is it worthwhile to put the new chip in?

Augie
 

So I barely can figure out how to program the stock chip. I bought the Uno2 chip in the spring but still haven't installed it. Since I am having so much trouble with the stock chip, is it worthwhile to put the new chip in?

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