CC Messages EXP Pedal
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Steven Marruso
I did download another control center and I did check the midi output and it also did not work for the expression controllers. I also opened up the unit to make sure that all the harnesses were in place, and they are. I am also assuming at this point I have
a bad chip I've had it for some time, I did have this problem a while back and was questioning this very issue and never got an answer. I just assumed that's the way it was supposed to work. I will have to order a new chip. There is also a possibility that
it could be the unit. I did go into the global settings and changed it back from stomp mode to regular FBC mode and it still did not work. Thanks for your support on this.
From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 2:25:06 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: RE: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal V1.0.4 is the latest. Yes, the pedal movement should be visible in the monitor, as in the attached screenshot (SLOW movement of the pedal – the display looks weird if you move it fast, but that in itself would indicate that it’s working.
If what you’ve got in the FCB matches the other screenshot, Preset 100 is actually Stomp 5. UNO takes presets 96-100 and uses that memory space for the Stomps. If there’s nothing coming out of the FCB when moving the exp pedal, maybe you do have a problem. If it was me I’d double check/confirm that by using MIDIOX (a free dedicated MIDI utility program – screenshot attached) to be sure that it’s not a problem with ControlCenter. Maybe you got a bad chip?
From: fcb1010_uno@...
[Attachment(s) from Steve Marruso included below] Did you see the screen shot I sent, It has all that info in it. I did upload the config via sysex into the UNO Editor, I them pressed the Preset 100 (in the UI) and you can see it shows up in the “MIDI Output for Preset 100” with the correct CC# 115 and value 0 – 127, when I move the Pedal in the Editor (UI) you see the output under “Midi Output for EXP Pedal A” and B respectively. When I enable the “MIDI IN Monitor” and press the Preset 100 on the physical FBC board I can see the toggling of the switch in the MIDI in Monitor but when I move the EXP Pedals (which are both enabled with red LED light on) I do not see any activity in the MIDI IN Monitor from the either EXP Pedal which I would expect to see, so I just want to know if this is supposed to show up or not in the MIDI IN Monitor? If the CC messages from the pedal are never leaving the board that would explain why it cannot interact with the BIAS FX software.
Also I have version 1.0.4 is this the latest version?
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From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
Not sure I understand. Are you rocking the exp pedal on the UI or the FCB itself? Have you DL'd the configuration to the FCB and pressed a button to activate the pedals? If you DL the configuration to the FCB and activated the exp pedals by pressing a button, then up load the FCB contents back to the editor (so you know they're identical), the left monitor box should show the same signals when using the UI pedal as the right monitor box shows when using the FCB pedal. Don't forget to click the little icon on the right box!
Or am I misunderstanding (again!)?
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EJ SHELDON
Before you try a new chip, here’s another possibility…..it could be, since neither pedal is working, that when the chip was installed, the ribbon connector for the exp pedals got disconnected. Open it up and have a look! That would be an easy solution.
You’ve (we’ve) been working on this all day, you must be about to pull your hair out!
From: fcb1010_uno@...
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 12:38 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: Re: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal
I did download another control center and I did check the midi output and it also did not work for the expression controllers. I also opened up the unit to make sure that all the harnesses were in place, and they are. I am also assuming at this point I have a bad chip I've had it for some time, I did have this problem a while back and was questioning this very issue and never got an answer. I just assumed that's the way it was supposed to work. I will have to order a new chip. There is also a possibility that it could be the unit. I did go into the global settings and changed it back from stomp mode to regular FBC mode and it still did not work. Thanks for your support on this. From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of EJ SHELDON
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
V1.0.4 is the latest. Yes, the pedal movement should be visible in the monitor, as in the attached screenshot (SLOW movement of the pedal – the display looks weird if you move it fast, but that in itself would indicate that it’s working.
If what you’ve got in the FCB matches the other screenshot, Preset 100 is actually Stomp 5. UNO takes presets 96-100 and uses that memory space for the Stomps. If there’s nothing coming out of the FCB when moving the exp pedal, maybe you do have a problem. If it was me I’d double check/confirm that by using MIDIOX (a free dedicated MIDI utility program – screenshot attached) to be sure that it’s not a problem with ControlCenter. Maybe you got a bad chip?
From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...>
[Attachment(s) from Steve Marruso included below] Did you see the screen shot I sent, It has all that info in it. I did upload the config via sysex into the UNO Editor, I them pressed the Preset 100 (in the UI) and you can see it shows up in the “MIDI Output for Preset 100” with the correct CC# 115 and value 0 – 127, when I move the Pedal in the Editor (UI) you see the output under “Midi Output for EXP Pedal A” and B respectively. When I enable the “MIDI IN Monitor” and press the Preset 100 on the physical FBC board I can see the toggling of the switch in the MIDI in Monitor but when I move the EXP Pedals (which are both enabled with red LED light on) I do not see any activity in the MIDI IN Monitor from the either EXP Pedal which I would expect to see, so I just want to know if this is supposed to show up or not in the MIDI IN Monitor? If the CC messages from the pedal are never leaving the board that would explain why it cannot interact with the BIAS FX software.
Also I have version 1.0.4 is this the latest version?
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From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
Not sure I understand. Are you rocking the exp pedal on the UI or the FCB itself? Have you DL'd the configuration to the FCB and pressed a button to activate the pedals? If you DL the configuration to the FCB and activated the exp pedals by pressing a button, then up load the FCB contents back to the editor (so you know they're identical), the left monitor box should show the same signals when using the UI pedal as the right monitor box shows when using the FCB pedal. Don't forget to click the little icon on the right box!
Or am I misunderstanding (again!)?
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Steven Marruso
On a side note you mentioned the headrush gigboard, how is that compared to let's say the line 6 helix, or the ax8 by fractal audio? I have been doing extensive research on these boards having a hard time making up my mind, I'm thinking the Helix offers the
most options and the biggest bang for the buck. But I've had so many bad experiences with line 6 products they all seem to go bad. And as you can see I don't have a lot of luck with these things.
From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of Steve Marruso smarruso@... [fcb1010_uno]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 2:37:41 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: Re: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal
I did download another control center and I did check the midi output and it also did not work for the expression controllers. I also opened up the unit to make sure that all the harnesses were in place, and they are. I am also assuming at this point I have
a bad chip I've had it for some time, I did have this problem a while back and was questioning this very issue and never got an answer. I just assumed that's the way it was supposed to work. I will have to order a new chip. There is also a possibility that
it could be the unit. I did go into the global settings and changed it back from stomp mode to regular FBC mode and it still did not work. Thanks for your support on this.
From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 2:25:06 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: RE: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal V1.0.4 is the latest. Yes, the pedal movement should be visible in the monitor, as in the attached screenshot (SLOW movement of the pedal – the display looks weird if you move it fast, but that in itself would indicate that it’s working.
If what you’ve got in the FCB matches the other screenshot, Preset 100 is actually Stomp 5. UNO takes presets 96-100 and uses that memory space for the Stomps. If there’s nothing coming out of the FCB when moving the exp pedal, maybe you do have a problem. If it was me I’d double check/confirm that by using MIDIOX (a free dedicated MIDI utility program – screenshot attached) to be sure that it’s not a problem with ControlCenter. Maybe you got a bad chip?
From: fcb1010_uno@...
[Attachment(s) from Steve Marruso included below] Did you see the screen shot I sent, It has all that info in it. I did upload the config via sysex into the UNO Editor, I them pressed the Preset 100 (in the UI) and you can see it shows up in the “MIDI Output for Preset 100” with the correct CC# 115 and value 0 – 127, when I move the Pedal in the Editor (UI) you see the output under “Midi Output for EXP Pedal A” and B respectively. When I enable the “MIDI IN Monitor” and press the Preset 100 on the physical FBC board I can see the toggling of the switch in the MIDI in Monitor but when I move the EXP Pedals (which are both enabled with red LED light on) I do not see any activity in the MIDI IN Monitor from the either EXP Pedal which I would expect to see, so I just want to know if this is supposed to show up or not in the MIDI IN Monitor? If the CC messages from the pedal are never leaving the board that would explain why it cannot interact with the BIAS FX software.
Also I have version 1.0.4 is this the latest version?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
Not sure I understand. Are you rocking the exp pedal on the UI or the FCB itself? Have you DL'd the configuration to the FCB and pressed a button to activate the pedals? If you DL the configuration to the FCB and activated the exp pedals by pressing a button, then up load the FCB contents back to the editor (so you know they're identical), the left monitor box should show the same signals when using the UI pedal as the right monitor box shows when using the FCB pedal. Don't forget to click the little icon on the right box!
Or am I misunderstanding (again!)?
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Steven Marruso
As I mentioned I did open the unit it doesn't have flexible connectors that has standard wired harnesses, my unit must be an older one oh, I'm thinking it's at least 7 to 10 years old something like that. But the cables are intact. I could try to locate the
old chip and put that in. Tell me the best confirmation I'm going to get.
From: Steve Marruso
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 2:42:54 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: Re: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal
On a side note you mentioned the headrush gigboard, how is that compared to let's say the line 6 helix, or the ax8 by fractal audio? I have been doing extensive research on these boards having a hard time making up my mind, I'm thinking the Helix offers the
most options and the biggest bang for the buck. But I've had so many bad experiences with line 6 products they all seem to go bad. And as you can see I don't have a lot of luck with these things.
From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of Steve Marruso smarruso@... [fcb1010_uno]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 2:37:41 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: Re: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal
I did download another control center and I did check the midi output and it also did not work for the expression controllers. I also opened up the unit to make sure that all the harnesses were in place, and they are. I am also assuming at this point I have
a bad chip I've had it for some time, I did have this problem a while back and was questioning this very issue and never got an answer. I just assumed that's the way it was supposed to work. I will have to order a new chip. There is also a possibility that
it could be the unit. I did go into the global settings and changed it back from stomp mode to regular FBC mode and it still did not work. Thanks for your support on this.
From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 2:25:06 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: RE: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal V1.0.4 is the latest. Yes, the pedal movement should be visible in the monitor, as in the attached screenshot (SLOW movement of the pedal – the display looks weird if you move it fast, but that in itself would indicate that it’s working.
If what you’ve got in the FCB matches the other screenshot, Preset 100 is actually Stomp 5. UNO takes presets 96-100 and uses that memory space for the Stomps. If there’s nothing coming out of the FCB when moving the exp pedal, maybe you do have a problem. If it was me I’d double check/confirm that by using MIDIOX (a free dedicated MIDI utility program – screenshot attached) to be sure that it’s not a problem with ControlCenter. Maybe you got a bad chip?
From: fcb1010_uno@...
[Attachment(s) from Steve Marruso included below] Did you see the screen shot I sent, It has all that info in it. I did upload the config via sysex into the UNO Editor, I them pressed the Preset 100 (in the UI) and you can see it shows up in the “MIDI Output for Preset 100” with the correct CC# 115 and value 0 – 127, when I move the Pedal in the Editor (UI) you see the output under “Midi Output for EXP Pedal A” and B respectively. When I enable the “MIDI IN Monitor” and press the Preset 100 on the physical FBC board I can see the toggling of the switch in the MIDI in Monitor but when I move the EXP Pedals (which are both enabled with red LED light on) I do not see any activity in the MIDI IN Monitor from the either EXP Pedal which I would expect to see, so I just want to know if this is supposed to show up or not in the MIDI IN Monitor? If the CC messages from the pedal are never leaving the board that would explain why it cannot interact with the BIAS FX software.
Also I have version 1.0.4 is this the latest version?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
Not sure I understand. Are you rocking the exp pedal on the UI or the FCB itself? Have you DL'd the configuration to the FCB and pressed a button to activate the pedals? If you DL the configuration to the FCB and activated the exp pedals by pressing a button, then up load the FCB contents back to the editor (so you know they're identical), the left monitor box should show the same signals when using the UI pedal as the right monitor box shows when using the FCB pedal. Don't forget to click the little icon on the right box!
Or am I misunderstanding (again!)?
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EJ SHELDON
Some like the sounds of the Headrush, some prefer the HX Stomp. The HX Stomp is smaller and cheaper and VERY different from the Gigboard in too many ways to get into here, and for another $99 you get the Helix Native VST, which sounds EXACTLY like the HX Stomp which sounds EXACTLY like the full sized Helix Floor. I have all three. Also, Line6’s support is peerless and, although Gigboard users report that Inmusic (Headrush/Alto parent company) support has improved, my experience with them was less than satisfactory. I have a Headrush FRFR112 speaker which sounds EXCELLENT with modelers, and for $300 is a steal.
If you go onto The Gear Page Digital Modeling section, both Line6 Helix and Headrush have THOUSANDS of posts about their products, along with the usual internet bickering over which one sounds best. Who knows, you may end up with a BOSS GT1000! (I don’t have one of those)
From: fcb1010_uno@...
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 12:43 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: Re: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal
On a side note you mentioned the headrush gigboard, how is that compared to let's say the line 6 helix, or the ax8 by fractal audio? I have been doing extensive research on these boards having a hard time making up my mind, I'm thinking the Helix offers the most options and the biggest bang for the buck. But I've had so many bad experiences with line 6 products they all seem to go bad. And as you can see I don't have a lot of luck with these things. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of Steve Marruso smarruso@... [fcb1010_uno]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 2:37:41 AM
I did download another control center and I did check the midi output and it also did not work for the expression controllers. I also opened up the unit to make sure that all the harnesses were in place, and they are. I am also assuming at this point I have a bad chip I've had it for some time, I did have this problem a while back and was questioning this very issue and never got an answer. I just assumed that's the way it was supposed to work. I will have to order a new chip. There is also a possibility that it could be the unit. I did go into the global settings and changed it back from stomp mode to regular FBC mode and it still did not work. Thanks for your support on this. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
V1.0.4 is the latest. Yes, the pedal movement should be visible in the monitor, as in the attached screenshot (SLOW movement of the pedal – the display looks weird if you move it fast, but that in itself would indicate that it’s working.
If what you’ve got in the FCB matches the other screenshot, Preset 100 is actually Stomp 5. UNO takes presets 96-100 and uses that memory space for the Stomps. If there’s nothing coming out of the FCB when moving the exp pedal, maybe you do have a problem. If it was me I’d double check/confirm that by using MIDIOX (a free dedicated MIDI utility program – screenshot attached) to be sure that it’s not a problem with ControlCenter. Maybe you got a bad chip?
From: fcb1010_uno@...
[Attachment(s) from Steve Marruso included below] Did you see the screen shot I sent, It has all that info in it. I did upload the config via sysex into the UNO Editor, I them pressed the Preset 100 (in the UI) and you can see it shows up in the “MIDI Output for Preset 100” with the correct CC# 115 and value 0 – 127, when I move the Pedal in the Editor (UI) you see the output under “Midi Output for EXP Pedal A” and B respectively. When I enable the “MIDI IN Monitor” and press the Preset 100 on the physical FBC board I can see the toggling of the switch in the MIDI in Monitor but when I move the EXP Pedals (which are both enabled with red LED light on) I do not see any activity in the MIDI IN Monitor from the either EXP Pedal which I would expect to see, so I just want to know if this is supposed to show up or not in the MIDI IN Monitor? If the CC messages from the pedal are never leaving the board that would explain why it cannot interact with the BIAS FX software.
Also I have version 1.0.4 is this the latest version?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
Not sure I understand. Are you rocking the exp pedal on the UI or the FCB itself? Have you DL'd the configuration to the FCB and pressed a button to activate the pedals? If you DL the configuration to the FCB and activated the exp pedals by pressing a button, then up load the FCB contents back to the editor (so you know they're identical), the left monitor box should show the same signals when using the UI pedal as the right monitor box shows when using the FCB pedal. Don't forget to click the little icon on the right box!
Or am I misunderstanding (again!)?
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EJ SHELDON
Well, putting the old chip back in might tell you if it’s the chip. ControlCenter works just fine with the stock chip.
From: fcb1010_uno@...
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 12:45 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: Re: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal
As I mentioned I did open the unit it doesn't have flexible connectors that has standard wired harnesses, my unit must be an older one oh, I'm thinking it's at least 7 to 10 years old something like that. But the cables are intact. I could try to locate the old chip and put that in. Tell me the best confirmation I'm going to get. From: Steve Marruso
On a side note you mentioned the headrush gigboard, how is that compared to let's say the line 6 helix, or the ax8 by fractal audio? I have been doing extensive research on these boards having a hard time making up my mind, I'm thinking the Helix offers the most options and the biggest bang for the buck. But I've had so many bad experiences with line 6 products they all seem to go bad. And as you can see I don't have a lot of luck with these things. From: fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of Steve Marruso smarruso@... [fcb1010_uno]
I did download another control center and I did check the midi output and it also did not work for the expression controllers. I also opened up the unit to make sure that all the harnesses were in place, and they are. I am also assuming at this point I have a bad chip I've had it for some time, I did have this problem a while back and was questioning this very issue and never got an answer. I just assumed that's the way it was supposed to work. I will have to order a new chip. There is also a possibility that it could be the unit. I did go into the global settings and changed it back from stomp mode to regular FBC mode and it still did not work. Thanks for your support on this. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
V1.0.4 is the latest. Yes, the pedal movement should be visible in the monitor, as in the attached screenshot (SLOW movement of the pedal – the display looks weird if you move it fast, but that in itself would indicate that it’s working.
If what you’ve got in the FCB matches the other screenshot, Preset 100 is actually Stomp 5. UNO takes presets 96-100 and uses that memory space for the Stomps. If there’s nothing coming out of the FCB when moving the exp pedal, maybe you do have a problem. If it was me I’d double check/confirm that by using MIDIOX (a free dedicated MIDI utility program – screenshot attached) to be sure that it’s not a problem with ControlCenter. Maybe you got a bad chip?
From: fcb1010_uno@...
[Attachment(s) from Steve Marruso included below] Did you see the screen shot I sent, It has all that info in it. I did upload the config via sysex into the UNO Editor, I them pressed the Preset 100 (in the UI) and you can see it shows up in the “MIDI Output for Preset 100” with the correct CC# 115 and value 0 – 127, when I move the Pedal in the Editor (UI) you see the output under “Midi Output for EXP Pedal A” and B respectively. When I enable the “MIDI IN Monitor” and press the Preset 100 on the physical FBC board I can see the toggling of the switch in the MIDI in Monitor but when I move the EXP Pedals (which are both enabled with red LED light on) I do not see any activity in the MIDI IN Monitor from the either EXP Pedal which I would expect to see, so I just want to know if this is supposed to show up or not in the MIDI IN Monitor? If the CC messages from the pedal are never leaving the board that would explain why it cannot interact with the BIAS FX software.
Also I have version 1.0.4 is this the latest version?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
Not sure I understand. Are you rocking the exp pedal on the UI or the FCB itself? Have you DL'd the configuration to the FCB and pressed a button to activate the pedals? If you DL the configuration to the FCB and activated the exp pedals by pressing a button, then up load the FCB contents back to the editor (so you know they're identical), the left monitor box should show the same signals when using the UI pedal as the right monitor box shows when using the FCB pedal. Don't forget to click the little icon on the right box!
Or am I misunderstanding (again!)?
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Steven Marruso
I think I'd rather have the helix then the HD, it has more IO in the back so I can run full stereo. I was attracted to the headrush because of the cost oh, I thought it might have more processing power because one of the features is that you can change patches
and have the reverbs and delays spillover, because of their four core processor. Turns out both the fractal ax8 and the line 6 Helix use the tiger shark processor buy a d devices. The tiger shark is a far superior processor, to the quad core processor used
in the Helix and the ax8. That is likely a testimony to the detail in both the amp models and the effects and Helix and the ax8. I haven't had a chance to sit down and listen to them in a live setting, only what I've heard on YouTube. The boss GT 1000 has
some interesting features the adaptive dynamic concept is attractive if it actually works, could just be a fancy acronym and not actually any better than the helix or the ax8. So much work has to go into all of this takes up a lot of my time. Thanks for your
input.
From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 2:56:01 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: RE: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal Well, putting the old chip back in might tell you if it’s the chip. ControlCenter works just fine with the stock chip.
From: fcb1010_uno@...
As I mentioned I did open the unit it doesn't have flexible connectors that has standard wired harnesses, my unit must be an older one oh, I'm thinking it's at least 7 to 10 years old something like that. But the cables are intact. I could try to locate the old chip and put that in. Tell me the best confirmation I'm going to get. From: Steve Marruso
On a side note you mentioned the headrush gigboard, how is that compared to let's say the line 6 helix, or the ax8 by fractal audio? I have been doing extensive research on these boards having a hard time making up my mind, I'm thinking the Helix offers the most options and the biggest bang for the buck. But I've had so many bad experiences with line 6 products they all seem to go bad. And as you can see I don't have a lot of luck with these things. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of Steve Marruso smarruso@... [fcb1010_uno]
I did download another control center and I did check the midi output and it also did not work for the expression controllers. I also opened up the unit to make sure that all the harnesses were in place, and they are. I am also assuming at this point I have a bad chip I've had it for some time, I did have this problem a while back and was questioning this very issue and never got an answer. I just assumed that's the way it was supposed to work. I will have to order a new chip. There is also a possibility that it could be the unit. I did go into the global settings and changed it back from stomp mode to regular FBC mode and it still did not work. Thanks for your support on this. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
V1.0.4 is the latest. Yes, the pedal movement should be visible in the monitor, as in the attached screenshot (SLOW movement of the pedal – the display looks weird if you move it fast, but that in itself would indicate that it’s working.
If what you’ve got in the FCB matches the other screenshot, Preset 100 is actually Stomp 5. UNO takes presets 96-100 and uses that memory space for the Stomps. If there’s nothing coming out of the FCB when moving the exp pedal, maybe you do have a problem. If it was me I’d double check/confirm that by using MIDIOX (a free dedicated MIDI utility program – screenshot attached) to be sure that it’s not a problem with ControlCenter. Maybe you got a bad chip?
From: fcb1010_uno@...
[Attachment(s) from Steve Marruso included below] Did you see the screen shot I sent, It has all that info in it. I did upload the config via sysex into the UNO Editor, I them pressed the Preset 100 (in the UI) and you can see it shows up in the “MIDI Output for Preset 100” with the correct CC# 115 and value 0 – 127, when I move the Pedal in the Editor (UI) you see the output under “Midi Output for EXP Pedal A” and B respectively. When I enable the “MIDI IN Monitor” and press the Preset 100 on the physical FBC board I can see the toggling of the switch in the MIDI in Monitor but when I move the EXP Pedals (which are both enabled with red LED light on) I do not see any activity in the MIDI IN Monitor from the either EXP Pedal which I would expect to see, so I just want to know if this is supposed to show up or not in the MIDI IN Monitor? If the CC messages from the pedal are never leaving the board that would explain why it cannot interact with the BIAS FX software.
Also I have version 1.0.4 is this the latest version?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
Not sure I understand. Are you rocking the exp pedal on the UI or the FCB itself? Have you DL'd the configuration to the FCB and pressed a button to activate the pedals? If you DL the configuration to the FCB and activated the exp pedals by pressing a button, then up load the FCB contents back to the editor (so you know they're identical), the left monitor box should show the same signals when using the UI pedal as the right monitor box shows when using the FCB pedal. Don't forget to click the little icon on the right box!
Or am I misunderstanding (again!)?
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Steven Marruso
From: fcb1010_uno@...
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 3:05:08 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: Re: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal
I think I'd rather have the helix then the HD, it has more IO in the back so I can run full stereo. I was attracted to the headrush because of the cost oh, I thought it might have more processing power because one of the features is that you can change patches
and have the reverbs and delays spillover, because of their four core processor. Turns out both the fractal ax8 and the line 6 Helix use the tiger shark processor buy a d devices. The tiger shark is a far superior processor, to the quad core processor used
in the Helix and the ax8. That is likely a testimony to the detail in both the amp models and the effects and Helix and the ax8. I haven't had a chance to sit down and listen to them in a live setting, only what I've heard on YouTube. The boss GT 1000 has
some interesting features the adaptive dynamic concept is attractive if it actually works, could just be a fancy acronym and not actually any better than the helix or the ax8. So much work has to go into all of this takes up a lot of my time. Thanks for your
input.
From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 2:56:01 AM
To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: RE: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal Well, putting the old chip back in might tell you if it’s the chip. ControlCenter works just fine with the stock chip.
From: fcb1010_uno@...
As I mentioned I did open the unit it doesn't have flexible connectors that has standard wired harnesses, my unit must be an older one oh, I'm thinking it's at least 7 to 10 years old something like that. But the cables are intact. I could try to locate the old chip and put that in. Tell me the best confirmation I'm going to get. From: Steve Marruso
On a side note you mentioned the headrush gigboard, how is that compared to let's say the line 6 helix, or the ax8 by fractal audio? I have been doing extensive research on these boards having a hard time making up my mind, I'm thinking the Helix offers the most options and the biggest bang for the buck. But I've had so many bad experiences with line 6 products they all seem to go bad. And as you can see I don't have a lot of luck with these things. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of Steve Marruso smarruso@... [fcb1010_uno]
I did download another control center and I did check the midi output and it also did not work for the expression controllers. I also opened up the unit to make sure that all the harnesses were in place, and they are. I am also assuming at this point I have a bad chip I've had it for some time, I did have this problem a while back and was questioning this very issue and never got an answer. I just assumed that's the way it was supposed to work. I will have to order a new chip. There is also a possibility that it could be the unit. I did go into the global settings and changed it back from stomp mode to regular FBC mode and it still did not work. Thanks for your support on this. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
V1.0.4 is the latest. Yes, the pedal movement should be visible in the monitor, as in the attached screenshot (SLOW movement of the pedal – the display looks weird if you move it fast, but that in itself would indicate that it’s working.
If what you’ve got in the FCB matches the other screenshot, Preset 100 is actually Stomp 5. UNO takes presets 96-100 and uses that memory space for the Stomps. If there’s nothing coming out of the FCB when moving the exp pedal, maybe you do have a problem. If it was me I’d double check/confirm that by using MIDIOX (a free dedicated MIDI utility program – screenshot attached) to be sure that it’s not a problem with ControlCenter. Maybe you got a bad chip?
From: fcb1010_uno@...
[Attachment(s) from Steve Marruso included below] Did you see the screen shot I sent, It has all that info in it. I did upload the config via sysex into the UNO Editor, I them pressed the Preset 100 (in the UI) and you can see it shows up in the “MIDI Output for Preset 100” with the correct CC# 115 and value 0 – 127, when I move the Pedal in the Editor (UI) you see the output under “Midi Output for EXP Pedal A” and B respectively. When I enable the “MIDI IN Monitor” and press the Preset 100 on the physical FBC board I can see the toggling of the switch in the MIDI in Monitor but when I move the EXP Pedals (which are both enabled with red LED light on) I do not see any activity in the MIDI IN Monitor from the either EXP Pedal which I would expect to see, so I just want to know if this is supposed to show up or not in the MIDI IN Monitor? If the CC messages from the pedal are never leaving the board that would explain why it cannot interact with the BIAS FX software.
Also I have version 1.0.4 is this the latest version?
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From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
Not sure I understand. Are you rocking the exp pedal on the UI or the FCB itself? Have you DL'd the configuration to the FCB and pressed a button to activate the pedals? If you DL the configuration to the FCB and activated the exp pedals by pressing a button, then up load the FCB contents back to the editor (so you know they're identical), the left monitor box should show the same signals when using the UI pedal as the right monitor box shows when using the FCB pedal. Don't forget to click the little icon on the right box!
Or am I misunderstanding (again!)?
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Carlos Castajeda
Hi Steve, I'm a bit confused. You say: "Turns out both the fractal ax8 and the line 6 Helix use the tiger shark processor buy a d devices. The tiger shark is a far superior processor, to the quad core processor used in the Helix and the ax8". What processor is used in the Helix? Op 22 jun. 2019 4:04 p.m. schreef "Steve Marruso smarruso@... [fcb1010_uno]" <fcb1010_uno@...>:
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EJ SHELDON
From: fcb1010_uno@...
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 8:04 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: RE: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal
From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of Steve Marruso smarruso@... [fcb1010_uno]
I think I'd rather have the helix then the HD, it has more IO in the back so I can run full stereo. I was attracted to the headrush because of the cost oh, I thought it might have more processing power because one of the features is that you can change patches and have the reverbs and delays spillover, because of their four core processor. Turns out both the fractal ax8 and the line 6 Helix use the tiger shark processor buy a d devices. The tiger shark is a far superior processor, to the quad core processor used in the Helix and the ax8. That is likely a testimony to the detail in both the amp models and the effects and Helix and the ax8. I haven't had a chance to sit down and listen to them in a live setting, only what I've heard on YouTube. The boss GT 1000 has some interesting features the adaptive dynamic concept is attractive if it actually works, could just be a fancy acronym and not actually any better than the helix or the ax8. So much work has to go into all of this takes up a lot of my time. Thanks for your input. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno]
Well, putting the old chip back in might tell you if it’s the chip. ControlCenter works just fine with the stock chip.
From: fcb1010_uno@...
As I mentioned I did open the unit it doesn't have flexible connectors that has standard wired harnesses, my unit must be an older one oh, I'm thinking it's at least 7 to 10 years old something like that. But the cables are intact. I could try to locate the old chip and put that in. Tell me the best confirmation I'm going to get. From: Steve Marruso
On a side note you mentioned the headrush gigboard, how is that compared to let's say the line 6 helix, or the ax8 by fractal audio? I have been doing extensive research on these boards having a hard time making up my mind, I'm thinking the Helix offers the most options and the biggest bang for the buck. But I've had so many bad experiences with line 6 products they all seem to go bad. And as you can see I don't have a lot of luck with these things. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of Steve Marruso smarruso@...
[fcb1010_uno]
I did download another control center and I did check the midi output and it also did not work for the expression controllers. I also opened up the unit to make sure that all the harnesses were in place, and they are. I am also assuming at this point I have a bad chip I've had it for some time, I did have this problem a while back and was questioning this very issue and never got an answer. I just assumed that's the way it was supposed to work. I will have to order a new chip. There is also a possibility that it could be the unit. I did go into the global settings and changed it back from stomp mode to regular FBC mode and it still did not work. Thanks for your support on this. From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of EJ SHELDON bluesrock13@...
[fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
V1.0.4 is the latest. Yes, the pedal movement should be visible in the monitor, as in the attached screenshot (SLOW movement of the pedal – the display looks weird if you move it fast, but that in itself would indicate that it’s working.
If what you’ve got in the FCB matches the other screenshot, Preset 100 is actually Stomp 5. UNO takes presets 96-100 and uses that memory space for the Stomps. If there’s nothing coming out of the FCB when moving the exp pedal, maybe you do have a problem. If it was me I’d double check/confirm that by using MIDIOX (a free dedicated MIDI utility program – screenshot attached) to be sure that it’s not a problem with ControlCenter. Maybe you got a bad chip?
From: fcb1010_uno@...
[Attachment(s) from Steve Marruso included below] Did you see the screen shot I sent, It has all that info in it. I did upload the config via sysex into the UNO Editor, I them pressed the Preset 100 (in the UI) and you can see it shows up in the “MIDI Output for Preset 100” with the correct CC# 115 and value 0 – 127, when I move the Pedal in the Editor (UI) you see the output under “Midi Output for EXP Pedal A” and B respectively. When I enable the “MIDI IN Monitor” and press the Preset 100 on the physical FBC board I can see the toggling of the switch in the MIDI in Monitor but when I move the EXP Pedals (which are both enabled with red LED light on) I do not see any activity in the MIDI IN Monitor from the either EXP Pedal which I would expect to see, so I just want to know if this is supposed to show up or not in the MIDI IN Monitor? If the CC messages from the pedal are never leaving the board that would explain why it cannot interact with the BIAS FX software.
Also I have version 1.0.4 is this the latest version?
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From:
fcb1010_uno@... <fcb1010_uno@...> on behalf of
bluesrock13@... [fcb1010_uno] <fcb1010_uno@...>
Not sure I understand. Are you rocking the exp pedal on the UI or the FCB itself? Have you DL'd the configuration to the FCB and pressed a button to activate the pedals? If you DL the configuration to the FCB and activated the exp pedals by pressing a button, then up load the FCB contents back to the editor (so you know they're identical), the left monitor box should show the same signals when using the UI pedal as the right monitor box shows when using the FCB pedal. Don't forget to click the little icon on the right box!
Or am I misunderstanding (again!)?
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Steven Marruso
There were a few typo’s in that text, I was using voice to text, it is not so accurate. But basically Analog Devices has a line of DSP chips called the Sharc series that have been around for over a decade so it is a mature technology. Currently Analog Devices offers several different versions of the Sharc processor the flagship processor being the Tiger Shark. Both the Helix, and the AX8 use this processor. The newer AXE FX III is using the Texas Instruments 66AK2G12 Multi Core DSP.
The Helix has two TS processors dedicated to modeling, and the AX8 Has 1. The Headrush on the other hand is being a bit secretive. They claim that there processor is purpose built, which likely means they had AD or TI build a modified version of their existing DSP line for them, however the HeadRush does limit the number of blocks that can be used at any given point in time which would suggest that it is not as robust as the native AD TS or the TI Multi Core DSP. Users claim that when using 2048 HD IR’s the HeadRush will reach its DSP limit. FYI
Here is a link to the TS AD Web Page https://www.analog.com/en/products/processors-dsp/dsp/sharc.html
Texas Instruments http://www.ti.com/product/66AK2G12
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From: fcb1010_uno@... on behalf of aretz.camr@... [fcb1010_uno]
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 10:29:01 AM To: fcb1010_uno@... Subject: RE: [fcb1010_uno] Re: CC Messages EXP Pedal Hi Steve,
I'm a bit confused. You say: "Turns out both the fractal ax8 and the line 6 Helix use the tiger shark processor buy a d devices. The tiger shark
is a far superior processor, to the quad core processor used in the Helix and the ax8".
What processor is used in the Helix?
Op 22 jun. 2019 4:04 p.m. schreef "Steve Marruso smarruso@... [fcb1010_uno]" :
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