ed
still have some issues with editor 2.94...anyone else have these
problems?...i have uno 1.02d installed...and initialized for memory and
stomp box mode...
1. launching editor checks firmware and if lucky detects uno chip but
without the version...otherwise it detects and displays behringer
without the version...if it does say behringer things come up all
wrong..must close and reopen until it says uno....
2. transmiting back to unit (receive enabled) makes all lights go out
and stay out like the unit is dead or turned off...even pressing the
down button does nothing...however i f i again re transmit sysex from
editor..then the lights come back on and no press of the down button is
required...seems to work ok...dont have this problem if using send
sx...but i do have to press the down button to get back to regular mode
3. problems with stomp box commands being sent out on a selected patch
even though i have that last (#10) stomp box button set to off..is this
a bug?..i know stomp box settings are sent out with their relative
patch from left to right

joe

I do not yet have the 1.02d UnO firmware, so I cannot verify whether
all works correctly for that new version. Mike is going to send me a
replacement chip, but do not have that as of yet.

On the Transmit issue, here with 1.0.2c, the lights go out for a few
seconds, and then come back on just after that. Will have to wait
for 2d chip to see if that cycle is different. The current editor
update offers two choices on how sysex data is transmitted (byte at a
time or block at once).

Not sure I understand the stomp box question.

Ed




--- In fcb1010_uno@..., "jopo696969" <jopo696969@...>
wrote:

ed
still have some issues with editor 2.94...anyone else have these
problems?...i have uno 1.02d installed...and initialized for memory

and

stomp box mode...
1. launching editor checks firmware and if lucky detects uno chip

but

without the version...otherwise it detects and displays behringer
without the version...if it does say behringer things come up all
wrong..must close and reopen until it says uno....
2. transmiting back to unit (receive enabled) makes all lights go

out

and stay out like the unit is dead or turned off...even pressing

the

down button does nothing...however i f i again re transmit sysex

from

editor..then the lights come back on and no press of the down

button is

required...seems to work ok...dont have this problem if using send
sx...but i do have to press the down button to get back to regular

mode

3. problems with stomp box commands being sent out on a selected

patch

even though i have that last (#10) stomp box button set to off..is

this

a bug?..i know stomp box settings are sent out with their relative
patch from left to right

joe

thanks ed..on the stomp box...
question is...how are the settings in a preset (1-5) handled in stomp
mode?...I understand that all preset info is first sent..then any stomp
box info (6-10) are sent out if the stomp box is enabled (light is on
with preset light)....am i right?...seems that all stomp boxes in that
preset are sent regardless if stomp is enabled (light on) or not (light
off)...this making it difficult to get my expression pedal to follow or
coincide with the last selected stomp box button...for instance if i
select my pitch stomp box i also want my expression pedal A to control
pitch (whammy) with my G major.If i then select chorus i want it to
control the depth of the chorus...i already have the g major set up for
4 different cc messages..one for each stomp box effect i will control...

joe

It's my understanding that only enabled stomp box controls are sent
when a preset is selected. You can then always override by selecting
a stomp box control after the preset is selected.

If 6 is chorus and 7 is whammy, then the expression pedals should
follow the stomps enabled for a given preset. If a preset had both 6
and 7 enabled, then 7 occurs last and would likely set the working
effect.

Ed


--- In fcb1010_uno@..., "jopo696969" <jopo696969@...>
wrote:

thanks ed..on the stomp box...
question is...how are the settings in a preset (1-5) handled in

stomp

mode?...I understand that all preset info is first sent..then any

stomp

box info (6-10) are sent out if the stomp box is enabled (light is

on

with preset light)....am i right?...seems that all stomp boxes in

that

preset are sent regardless if stomp is enabled (light on) or not

(light

off)...this making it difficult to get my expression pedal to

follow or

coincide with the last selected stomp box button...for instance if

i

select my pitch stomp box i also want my expression pedal A to

control

pitch (whammy) with my G major.If i then select chorus i want it to
control the depth of the chorus...i already have the g major set up

for

4 different cc messages..one for each stomp box effect i will

control...

joe

Hey Joe,

there's 1 thing to keep in mind (apparently rather confusing) :
a stompbox can have 3 possible values : disabled, on or off.

Maybe your preset has all stompboxes ENabled, a few ON (light is on
with preset light) and a few OFF (light is off with preset light)
In that case, indeed all stompboxes send a message (some their "on"
message, others their "off" message), and the expression pedal will
have the control number programmed in the last stompbox.

If you want some stompboxes not to send anything when you select a
patch, you need to DISable them for that patch (instead of programming
them to the OFF state). That means that the status of those stompboxes
will not change when you select the patch (the stompbox leds will stay
ON or OFF, whatever they were before selecting the patch) and they
will not change the expression pedal behaviour.

Hope this helps.

That does help...so a setting of NC (no change) on a particular stomp
box, in the preset, will let that stomp remain unchanged and also not
send any of its programming info. and ON or OFF will send all o fits
programming info....got it..but the whole idea of a preset is to have
all my effects come up in one button press..not having to go back and
click off chorus or delay or pitch because they are set to NC. I have
a workaround...my last stomp can be programmed for tuner mute (mutes
entire sound)only...it will always be set to off...but i will also
set exp pedal A in tuner mute stomp box to control the effect i want,
when i first step on the preset....this way im not muting when
selecting the preset but i am controlling the parameter i want in the
effect i want when first selecting that preset....all the other 4
stomps can be set to on or offas the last stomp will overide the ones
before it...right?
would be nice to simply have a check box in the editor that allows
you to choose a default exp pedal no matter what the stomps are set
for...
possible?
cmon you guys are good i know you can do it..
so far what you guys are doing is incredible...very powerful...soon
able to compete with much more expensive solutions on the
market..have you seen TC electronic's G system? or Tom Bradshaws
stuff?....you have made the fcb1010 a strong competitor..when will
you start charging for this stuff ED?
Joe

yep - you got it.

your workaround is a good one, if you can live with 1 general default
for the expression pedal, not only independent of what stomps are set,
but also independent of what preset is selected.

I see now that the expression pedal logic is implemented incorrectly
indeed - it doesn't make sense to activate the expression pedal
setting for a stompbox in the off state...
On the other hand, it can't be done correctly anyhow: even if I would
correct the firmware for that, you still have a similar issue which
can't be solved - if a patch activates 3 stompboxes, the expression
pedal would always be linked to the last one only. In order to
manipulate 1 of the other effects with the expression pedal, you would
also need to shortly deselect and select it, as is the case with the
current firmware.
I guess it would be better, when selecting a patch, to use the patch
setting for the expression pedals, and NOT have the stomps override
this setting (same for the relay settings). Obviously you still would
have the possibility to program specific expression pedal settings for
each stomp, but these would only be activated when you click the stomp
box to activate it.

The FCB and UnO firmware is a fairly powerful combo. There are
usually many ways to implement different situations. It boils down
to finding the way that works best for you.

I currently use the expression pedal very differently. I use the FCB
to control both a guitar and synth rack. I have guitar presets in
banks 9 and 0 and synth presets in bank 1. I use Exp A for guitar
volume and B for synth volume. I have some presets in bank 9 that
preset volume and use A for Wah. In each case I have it set to auto
volume boost (the G-Major) when a preset is selected the second time
(this uses the CCs).

Ed


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wrote:

That does help...so a setting of NC (no change) on a particular

stomp

box, in the preset, will let that stomp remain unchanged and also

not

send any of its programming info. and ON or OFF will send all o

fits

programming info....got it..but the whole idea of a preset is to

have

all my effects come up in one button press..not having to go back

and

click off chorus or delay or pitch because they are set to NC. I

have

a workaround...my last stomp can be programmed for tuner mute

(mutes

entire sound)only...it will always be set to off...but i will also
set exp pedal A in tuner mute stomp box to control the effect i

want,

when i first step on the preset....this way im not muting when
selecting the preset but i am controlling the parameter i want in

the

effect i want when first selecting that preset....all the other 4
stomps can be set to on or offas the last stomp will overide the

ones

before it...right?
would be nice to simply have a check box in the editor that allows
you to choose a default exp pedal no matter what the stomps are set
for...
possible?
cmon you guys are good i know you can do it..
so far what you guys are doing is incredible...very powerful...soon
able to compete with much more expensive solutions on the
market..have you seen TC electronic's G system? or Tom Bradshaws
stuff?....you have made the fcb1010 a strong competitor..when will
you start charging for this stuff ED?
Joe