Ken,

I understand, all these new settings are much to take in.

Let me try to help. But, I'd like to pressure you just a bit, once
you get a handle on it, to put together some files to help others
with this particular rig. BassVamp & FCB1010 is a popular
combination. So, go look at Files, Applications and try to think
about posting something there when you are ready. Someone may beat
you to it, but please consider it.


OK, here's where I would start...

#1 - For your lower, non-stomp preset: set up each one ONLY to send
one PC plus set up the two expression pedals. Make sure all the

CCs

are off.

#2 - for each of your upper, stomp presets: configure each one ONLY
for one CC. Make each one a toggle with 127 as the primary value
and 0 as the alternate value. Make sure the expression pedals are
set to "no change."

#3 - Back to your lower, non-stomp presets: for each one set up
each "stomp" setting as desire for the appropriate initial
conditions of the five stomp presets.

If you use switches, hold off on that just for the moment 'till you
tackle the MIDI stuff.

Let me know how this goes...

mike riley
--- In fcb1010_uno@..., "Ken Granger"

<ken.granger@g...>

wrote:

After some patient assistance from Slimdude a couple of months

ago

I

had the long-awaited 'aha' moment with my 1010 and Bass VAMP

Pro...

Hey Ken,

all you need to do to toggle Chorus for instance, is program 2 CC
messages into your stomp box :
- CC1 = #20, with the corresponding value to select "Chorus".
- CC2 = #21, with 127 as "primary" value (to switch the effect on) and
0 as "secondary" value (to switch it off)

For CC1, make sure you program the value for "Chorus" in both the
"primary" and "secondary" values - so that the effect selection
doesn't change right before it is turned off.

X.

--- In fcb1010_uno@..., "Ken Granger" <ken.granger@> wrote:

Mike, after a considerable delay in getting back to playing with this,
I finally got a chance. I'm closer but still not quite right. I think
part of my confusion is that a couple of the things I want the top row
of pedals to do are to select effects, and a couple are considered
separate from the effects on the BassVamp. For example (and forgive
me, I don't have the documentation handy for specific CC #'s):

Chorus, Phaser, etc., are considered 'effects'. I think to turn on
whatever effect is set on the patch requires CC#20. CC#21 selects the
specific effect 'type': chorus, stereo chorus, phaser, and so forth.
What I'd like to do is step on pedal 6 to toggle the chorus on and off
regardless of what effect may or may not be specified in the patch I
have selected at the time. Now the Big Bass Boost is not considered an
effect but a 'stomp box' which has its own CC# to turn it on and off.
So I can see how your instructions below would control the Boost, but
I'm having trouble getting a grip on how to toggle chorus with pedal
6, phaser with pedal 7, and maybe rotary cabinet on pedal 8.

I thought I understood what you were saying with sending one CC and
setting it to toggle but when I went into the editor to actually do
it, I immediately ran into the confusion above.

Have I muddied the situation adequately for you? Any suggestions? Am I
correct in assuming that what I'm trying to do is possible?

Thanks to all for their input...if I ever get this figured out I'll
write it all up and post it. Just haven't quite gotten a handle on

it yet.

Ken,

I think what you want to do, that is, toggle chorus on and off even
if chorus is not the effect selected within the patch, may not be
practical for the "stomp" metaphor. Here's why... selecting a
different amp, cabinet, or effect constitutes a "model change."
Almost surely (I don't have a BassVamp), this will cause an audible
dropout while the amp changes models. Really, the stomp concept
needs to be limited to effect on/off control - and your boost and
other things the Vamp exposes for this type of control.

Some manufacturers distinguish these types of parameters
as "continuous controllers" because there are intended to
manipulated while you are playing. Some parameters, although
exposed for control via MIDI are only useful between songs or
perhaps between phrases so they are not considered continuous.
Although this is not a universally accepted definition
of "continuous controller", I like it.

Is this making any sense?

mike riley

--- In fcb1010_uno@..., "Ken Granger" <ken.granger@>
wrote:

Mike, after a considerable delay in getting back to playing with

this,

I finally got a chance. I'm closer but still not quite right. I

think

part of my confusion is that a couple of the things I want the top

row

of pedals to do are to select effects, and a couple are considered
separate from the effects on the BassVamp. For example (and forgive
me, I don't have the documentation handy for specific CC #'s):

Chorus, Phaser, etc., are considered 'effects'. I think to turn on
whatever effect is set on the patch requires CC#20. CC#21 selects

the

specific effect 'type': chorus, stereo chorus, phaser, and so

forth.

What I'd like to do is step on pedal 6 to toggle the chorus on and

off

regardless of what effect may or may not be specified in the patch

I

have selected at the time. Now the Big Bass Boost is not

considered an

effect but a 'stomp box' which has its own CC# to turn it on and

off.

So I can see how your instructions below would control the Boost,

but

I'm having trouble getting a grip on how to toggle chorus with

pedal

6, phaser with pedal 7, and maybe rotary cabinet on pedal 8.

I thought I understood what you were saying with sending one CC and
setting it to toggle but when I went into the editor to actually do
it, I immediately ran into the confusion above.

Have I muddied the situation adequately for you? Any suggestions?

Am I

correct in assuming that what I'm trying to do is possible?

Thanks to all for their input...if I ever get this figured out I'll
write it all up and post it. Just haven't quite gotten a handle on

it yet.